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Would we rather have children who are unwanted? Will they be adopted, and given good homes?

These are choices people make... unfortunate choices, in my view as a father myself... but I can't speak for them.

My brother adopted a foster child, a boy afflicted with Down's syndrome, who was being kept in a kennel with dogs by his former foster parents (they wanted the money). His real parents had drug problems and could not handle parenting. I am proud of my brother, but that is just one boy he is saving from a miserable life.

Unwanted children seems to be the key. There was a study done in the U.S, a few years ago. It was tracking the drop in crime rates over the past couple of decades.

What they found was that the drop in crime rates coincided with making abortion legal. The crime rate started to drop about 18 years after abortion became legal. The implication was that if the children are wanted, they will be taken care of, and will be much less likely to turn to crime.

Even more significant, abortion became legal at different times in different states, and the crime rate drop was delayed in the states where legalized abortion was delayed. The drop in the crime rate still occurred 18 years after abortion became legal in those states.

The study was quite vague, and needed follow up. Unfortunately I have not seen any of that follow up. Still, I found it to be quite interesting.

i think it is up to the individual, theres no point in having kids if they don't want them, the kids will only grow up unloved.

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children are a burden that some choose not to deal with, why is that difficult to understand? and why on earth is that a sad thing?

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I dont have kids, I am 40 and I avoided having any kids all my life. I will definitely not even consider or contemplate having a kid. The world already have enough people as it is. It is not responsible to bring more kids to this world. We are living in an overpopulated planet with its natural resources almost depleted thanks to unconcious men and women that only behave and breed like animals. If you ask me, I will say I did not ask to be born. It's a choice I didn't make.

The world being over populated is a myth. Facts show that if you took every single human on the face of the earth and stood them shoulder to shoulder they would barely cover one county of a state in the USA, As for food, well not having it is a localized thing, as some places have more food than they can use and it spoils while others have none. To say we shouldnt have children because of a lack of natural resources is actually rather selfish, since we want more for ourselves.
I would love to find the right woman to marry and have a family. I adore children and just love my nephew so much. Almost every person I know who has children says they are a blessing and not a curse. Those I know who never had any and hate the thought of having children are usually the most selfish people I know.

The world doesnt need less people, it just needs less people who think only of themselves. Less people who only think of what they can get from the world and other people and more who think of what they can give to the world and other people around them.

Those who live by the motto " take care of number one" usually end up being number one, in the little world of one that is centered around them. I have been there and it is a sad and lonely place. Im just glad I dont live there any more. And maybe soon that world will expand for me with a family of my own.

Wake up! Our planet is not the same it used to be 200 years ago. Over population is a fact, not a myth. Most of Earth's 160,000 glaciers have been slowly shrinking and thinning for more than a century as the climate warms up from both natural causes and human activity. When the glaciers are gone, some decades from now, the water supply will be diminished. What are you thinking of? Food supply, especially water will not last forever! Geez, yours is really positive thinking, but the reality is that we shouldn't bring people that will suffer from our acts. IMHO, its selfish to bring kids that will have to deal with the disaster we had created.

Actually there is as much water on earth today as there was 1million years ago. Maybe more since there have probably been some small comets impact earth in that time period. Water is either in the ocean, in the air, under the ground or frozen in the ice caps and glaciers. It may move from one place to another but it is not destroyed. The water you drink today, was probably drank by a dinosaur and then by a mammoth much later and maybe even more animals or people at some time in the past.

In the past the earth has also been much hotter and much colder. Most of these changes have been caused by the changes in the output of the sun, along with the changes in the earths orbit. A few were brought on by asteroid impacts and enormous volcanic eruptions. Humans really only contribute 0.4% of the total carbon dioxide that is put into the atmosphere each year, and one volcanic eruption less can make up for that easily.

6.7 billion people, standing shoulder to shoulder? even if everyone of them were freakishly thin and only a foot from left shoulder to right, that would still be a line of people well over 1 million miles long, dude... exactly what county in what state is over a million miles wide?

Actually if you estimate 7 billion people on earth, and be generous and say they are 2meters wise and 1 meter thick, ( a very large person to be certain) then they would occupy 14 billion square meters. Sounds big but that is actually only 14,000 square kilometers which is a parcel of land 120km on each side. Ok and for the non metric folks that is 75 miles on each side of the square. So I admit I underestimated a little that is maybe 3 counties here in Kentucky, if everyone on earth has something like a 56 inch waist line and they would still have room to move around a little without hitting the person next to them. Now after a little searching I found that the Land area of the earth is 148,300,000 square km. so if you take the over estimated area a person covers on the earth multiplied by the 7 billion people and get 14,000 sqhare kilometers then if all the humans on earth were standing beside each other they would cover 0.0094% of the Earth's surface. That is about the same ratio of land covered by humans as what a period at the end of a sentence covers on a newspaper, well probably less than that actually.

So its best to do a little math before exclaiming someone is nuts.

more pointless math fun:

ok, my statistic still standing, and considering that the earth has a circumference of roughly 25 thousand miles, then i can just as easily, frame things by saying that there are enough people on earth to line up, one shoulder to the next, to circle the planet more than 50 times. whoa! golly, can you believe that?!

i'm sorry, but your thinking is faulty.

no matter how closely you can imagine crowding together all of mankind that doesn't really say anything about the earth's carrying capacity.
tell me, how much of that total land area of the earth is realistically habitable by humans, and how much land is actually available and suitable for producing enough food to comfortably support human life? and of all the water you point out that is available to us, how much is actually readily drinkable? and what resources are required to convert that water that isn't?
and what about the land and resources needed for food and water, but for medicine, sanitation, recreation, etc?
please, take your life in kentucky as a baseline, how much of the earth's resources does it take to sustain a single human life of the quality you perceive as bearable? do you really think that such a life is realistically sustainable for the 6.7 billion people on earth now?

and during those cycles of warming and cooling of the earth you spoke of, how often and to what consequence have those climatic changes actually affected human life?

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100 % agree) i have one son but would like more

Its a choice )) At least they think and dont murder later with abortion

do you remember all the fun you had in your mom's belly before you were born? How can you call it crime? killing someone who wasn't yet born? lmao.

Can you remember all the fun you had before you were 4 . So it means we can murder kids under 4

sure, but i was already born before 4. so logically speaking a murder is valid if the victim was already born. How can you kill the unborn? ;-)

are you saying that you think even late term abortions are ok? so, even if it were performed an hour before it were to come to term, it would still be just fine for you to abort? and if not, then when would be the latest in a pregnancy would it be ok for you to still have no moral qualms with aborting, and why?

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i volunteer to make babies with you :)

me 2

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The right time is already gone ;-)

i agree with you in sense that im against that kind of thinking; we are talking today as people didnt had children in much worst circumstances then we are and they grow up in fine people; on other hand, having children always ask for some sacrifice - finantial or what ever, but what we gain from experience of having children not many people take in consideration and not many parents even notice and enjoy; im not a parent myself and i cant say what others should do - ive been around few children growing up, trying to help and enjoy reliving my own childhood, and i can say it is wonderfull no matter of "can i affored it" - kids are unbeliveble teachers to us "adults"; it seems to me that we tent to "play god" in that way

It is obviously a personal choice, but one that can't be considered lightly... either to have a child, or to forgo parenthood altogether. You should be prepared to live with the consequences of your choices.

A child deserves support, and love, and security, unconditionally, and too many parents, especially young ones, are not prepared to give that. That is irresponsible in my view.

On the other hand, when you give of yourself as a parent, you are rewarded many times over by the experience... it changes how you view life, your tolerance of and patience with people, your acceptance of long-term goals over short-term gains, your sense of compassion, your humility, your maturity. I would not give up the experience of fatherhood for anything. That was my personal choice.

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I find it revealing that everyone who has responded so far to Olympia's original post has chosen to focus only on the individual's rights and choices and not on the larger, long-term threat to her country's (Russia, in her case) well-being from a rapidly declining population. The strategic truth is that Russia, with the largest land area of any country, has fewer and fewer people every year and is surrounded on many sides by country's (China, for example) with rapidly growing populations. Former President Putin perceived the strategic threat in this situation when he offered money to women to have additional children a few years ago. Apparently (from Olympia's post) his offer hasn't worked. The easy solution - offer free citizenship and free sessions to all CC users who enjoy chatting with all the lovely devocheki here! That will solve the demographic crisis!

Hah! as if Russia doesn't already have enough single mothers.

No disrespect towards single mothers intended, in the least. I know many of them, in Russia and in USA.

I realize this is tongue-in-cheek, but it's not just sheer numbers that make a country's population strong.

nope, having more people than another people is precisely what makes a population strong.

Oh? poor countries, with stalling economies, overtaxed natural resources, corrupt governments... how does adding more people make these countries strong?

how does it not? people in numbers represent basic power.. the greater their number, the greater the power a population collectively wields... the more economic import it has world-wide, the more people it has to fight for those natural resources.

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are you mormon by any chance? :)

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I cannot help but think that in a couple of generations time we will be wondering what we were thinking of when we tried to be so altruistic with the idea of population growth.

It has been shockingly been documented that over the last century there has been a declining number of men with nominal sperm counts and that the rise in hermaphrodite births has been increasing. It is suspected that modern living , pesticides, fertilizers, medicines, plastics even radio waves may be linked to this trend, though the jury is still out on that. However it does seem to be a trend that keeps on going.

So though I can see the moral aspects of choosing or not choosing to have children might be a dilemma for some, I do wonder at what point this will be a fond memory over the reality that procreation may not be a choice in the 22nd century.

Oh and another fact that may on the face of it seem great there are more girls being born than boys. Couple that together with less 'viable' men and you have to wonder what the future holds for us.

Sorry to be a sombre note in. Just one of those things that I think about from time to time.


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It's no wonder, we kill nature day by day, that's what we get on return. We forgot we are part of that nature we destroy for a comfort life and we are killing ourselves as well. Babies with birth defects is increasing in great numbers too... We are not in the 50's or 60's anymore. We are living a the future ourselves created.

In what way are we being altrusitic when it comes to population growth? Have you read some figures somewhere that suggest that people, generally, are so concerned about the fate of future generations that they are actually, willingly limiting the number of children they have now or foregoing having children altoghter?

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men understand all, didnt you know?...lol

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I totally agree with you.

For Russia it's incredibly important now to increase the number of population and actually we have all the resources to let us increase it. Alas, our modern official politics with its pseudo-care unfortunately leaves no chance for that. We still keep having lost people over born ones.

Also... Russia mostly always was and is the Christian country which implies that we should be letting God rule our lives, as well as how many children should be born. Traditionally it was like that until the human beings assumed they can decide everything and ignore God's Law... Keeping traditions though is what certainly makes a country quite successful, powerful and stable.
That could be said about any country. The higher level of moral values the majority of nation is having the stronger and longer living that nation is.



Generally, the more people are atheistic therefore the more they are egoistic...and an atheism only grows nowadays...Lot of people no longer take God and Faith seriously. This is why they think that:

Murdering unborn babies (abortion) is ok and is solving all their problems.

Murdering the first unborn baby buys the right for the second one to be born.

Sterilization would make their "making love" easier.

And on top is this nonsense:

Personally having no kids would help the overpopulated planet.

Haha...what a "great concern" about the world and what a stupid sacrifice if someone thinks that THIS would save the world!)

But such concern is nothing else but trying to veil own egoism and lack of love, because all children must be loved implicitly.

I wish people won't be naive and won't think that having no kids is always their own choice. Unless someone is unable, it is definitely the flood of propaganda to make us completely selfish...plus, the execution in so many ways of well-known plan for declining the population on earth. We should think deeper WHO is so interested to
make us such a choice. Our so called "freedom" is actually pretty limited. People think they choose but in fact they just follow common patterns. Thus, either choice we make, first lets check it properly each time before we think it is our own decision.

I'm an atheist and I assure you my morals are just as high, if not higher, than most religious people.

There is more I would have liked to have said but I'll leave it at that.

Having as many kids as we could or "God" wishes is not going to solve any problem either. Many facts are involve, financial status being the biggest, people are more concious that kids need food, clothes, and education. Many of us grew up with limitations that made us suffer and feel the pain of frustration at a young age and we dont want that for our kids. Others feel their relationships are not matured enough to face "responsibilities" a kid implies. How many of us grew with parents fighting all the time? Do we want to repeat the story? Some of us decided to wait until we are fully prepared, others just gave up their dreams to be parents due to jobs that dont pay well enough to raise a family. Shall you have the maturity and resources ($$$) to feed your family and a great plan for their future, then a kid or 2 is not a problem. Go ahead have as many kids as your God wishes, but don't just throw your misconceptions of others' decisions.

It was in the news today that United Nations estimates nearly a billion people in this world live day-to-day getting the bare amount of food necessary just to survive. With an increase in the population and an even greater strain on food production, how do you propose we feed everyone? Being Christian, I'm sure you're not so callous as to just let people starve to death, right?

it was also stated in the same report,that there is more than enough food stock,even in this economically depressed time,to feed the whole of mankind.self-interest,apathy,greed prevent it,i guess.when people lose compassion for people do we deserve to be called mankind? :--)

Yes, right!
And the rates of those who are hungriest are highest in the developing world where the birth rates are highest too.
I just don't understand how someond can call him/herself a Christian and laugh at and call egoists those who have the whole of mankind in their thoughts rather than just the fate of those who they just happen to share a country culture with.
Really, would Jesus approve?

As Christian I am telling you that some people are starving to death because some others are too greedy and feel they don't have cut their luxury. The key definitely is not in the decreasing amount of population but in cutting greediness in some people. Until 90% of the world's wealth belongs to just 10% of the mankind we cannot feed everyone for sure. But they are not going at least to change their lifestyle or to give away their excess to the poorest ones, right? Also, some societies don't want to slow down their consumer itch and are not going to cut their over needs (which are not needs actually but the wrong idea that they are the elite of the world, and can use much more of resources than the rest of the world) we cannot have fair system where everyone can survive. And don't tell me such a system is impossible at all. Practically it is not "never-never" thing...but what is impossible is to change the mind of those who think they are somehow special ones and others are just slaves.

Wealth itself cannot make anyone better as well as it cannot make anyone better parent. Too many of monsters among the rich ones. To be good parent you don't need to be a millionaire. But what you definitely need is a rich soul full of love and your heart on the right place. After WWII most of people in Russia were poor but that didn't stop them having kids and giving them a chance to live and to build their own decent life. Let me remind that God created all people as equal beings and gives to everyone all the necessary to survive. Alike the sun is shining and warming for everyone. And no need to blame God for what people are choosing according to their spoilt nature. We were given the free will and this is what differs us from the animals. But this doesn't mean people are free to hurt each other in this or that way.

So, the question will be not solved until some part of the humanity realise they cannot take all their money with them after their physical death. There are only two ideas in the world: you believe that your soul is living endlessly and there is a life after death OR you believe that you were the monkey before you have transformed into the human being and you will just die some day and disappear forever like a dust. Everyone behaves according to one of these beliefs.

So all that is needed to feed the hungry is first a fair and equitable global redistribution of all wealth?
I'm not going to say that that's an impossibility, but let's just suppose that that might take a little while to accomplish. What of the world's poor and undernourished is to be done until then?

And I'm curious, What if Russians began adopting babies from a country with a population growing too large? Your neighbor China, for instance. Would it matter at all to those concerned about Russia's shrinking population if a larger and larger percentage of future generations were not ethnic Russians, but Chinese instead?

The planet Earth still is having enough of resources to provide an average level of life for everyone and will have...but IF to change the whole system. Don't you see that the system we have now IS totally crazy and totally wrong if there are someone who seriously thinking about extermination of the largest part of the mankind or stopping childbirth JUST because they need food and stuff? And then the next question, who is going to decide who deserves to live? Isn't it a proof that this system is absolutely insane? And how anyone can even think that this idea can save the world?

So... YES, redistribution of all world's wealth and making it work for the best future is the only way to save this world if we really are going to save it. But then those who rule the world should be totally honest, almost saint. Which I doubt would ever happen without having God in every heart.

As for the adopting Chinese children...I have an answer but I think your question is too provocative itself and I will not reply.

Some people just dont want to see what we are living. I guess eyes that dont see... Roses are red and the sky is pink, LMAO!!!!!

don't make fun....when the christian/communist new world order dawns we'll all be so much better off.

I don't think anyone is really arguing that the world is perfect. Indeed, can't you imagine that a similar kind of craziness that you yourself speak of might actually affect the decision of others not to have children? Is it really selfish to choose not to have a child when you imagine that the future of the world will likely be even crazier?

Your hope for humanity to one day be able to look past self-interest and greed and start living with concern not for only ourselves, our families, our friends, or our country, but for all of mankind is very nice, I wish it could come true, but I'm sad to say that I tend to look at things a bit more pessimistically. It seems to me that human nature, no matter how initially well-intended, turns to acts of self-preservation at the expense of others when times get difficult. Sarcity of resources, whether brought about by selfish acumulation or by an actual limit on finite materials, will always be reason for craziness. It seems to me it will alwasy be reason for choosing who deserves to live and who's seen as expendable.

isn't it like that already? look at how many people have all the money in the world and look at how many people are living in poverty, no housing, and no food to eat tomorrow... there are the ones with ideals, the ones that help others, but not enough to balance an equal balance of life and the ones that think that everything is alright, they must be blind not to see what's going on...

Yes, I think you're right.

So what? Lets just watch what is going in the world and wait for the end? Lets not think, not talk, not fight back, not act, not giving birth and so on? Well, but that is exactly what those who lead this world to the end expect we would do!

Anyway...back to the topic...My last word is:
Basically, not having children doesn't make this world any better and less crazy. Either we have kids or not, we people must be cautious about who "makes the weather" in the world now...in other words, who stands behind any "trend", any "fashion" or any "project" and what are their real goals. We really must have our eyes and ears open these days.

So what if your particular remedy for the world's ills is something that isn't agreeable to everyone? Do you really think it's realistic that everyone on the planet, of their own free will, can all come to together and agree on one single way to live their lives? To me, that seems very unlikely.
And it's one thing to decide not to have a child because you're afraid of the future that that child might face, but it's another thing entirely not to care about the people who are already here. For you to suggest that someone who chooses to be childless is necessarily apathetic or selfish is just not logically true. You don't fault Mother Teresa for not having had children, do you?

I appreciate your faith and the tenacity with which you seem determined to cling to your beliefs, I do. I can even appreciate your desire to have everyone believe just as you do too. I have to say though, if it really is your aim to sway the minds of others to your way of thinking, you might want to try to be more tactful and more patient and more forgiving of the reservations others might have at first in sacrificing their own world view before giving themselves completely to yours.

God bless.

Oh sure, who am I to change the world or someone's mind...but you know what? At least I am not keeping silense about what I see is happening and is going to happen very soon, unlike many of others do prefer. And such a point of view is not my own only. Many other, far more intellectual and informed people think and say the same too...I don't force anyone to think exactly like me, I just say out what is known already long ago. All this everyone can find in Bible and in other even not religious sources if I am personally not that authoritative for anyone. And no need to try to make shame of me or call me tactless/impatient just because you think differently. As you can notice, I am not blaming you or anyone personally, am I?

To me it seems strange that you try to find what else to criticize me for, while the true is that we all, I mean ALL of us, are in the same boat...and doesn't matter what we argue here about when we all are in danger. The more we all together realise the fact of danger the better our chances to escape the catastrophe.

Olympiya's original subject was certainly the cause for me to discuss the whole problem much wider...why not?

Yes, you're certainly not keeping silent. But try your best to free yourself from the trappings of your own ego and from this defensiveness that you seem to be feeling and read again your first message to this thread. Let compassion be your guide and ask yourself what might be the consequence of the general tenor of that first message of yours on those who are not already of the same mind as you. Can you not see that it might very well cause the same kind of defensive and lead people to be much less responsive to what you think and what you believe? The further you go along in life, keep both your eyes and ears open to how people repsond to being mocked, to being called uncaring, to being laughed at, and to having their own beliefs be called nonsense. If you want your beliefs to be everyone's, how is such a way of dealing with people an effective means to that end?

And if God and the Bible are truly your touchstones in life, why would you appeal to others to look toward "intellectual and informed" people? Do you? Is God's word alone not good enough for you? I'm sure that I don't have to tell you that religion itself is something that the powerful and the wealthy have been known to demagogue and abuse in the aim of their own interests. To ask people to bow to the opinions of the informed and the intellectual, you might as well ask them to believe in global warming and the threat of overpopulation that the consensus of the scientific community say are very real dangers.

What seems both strange and regretful to me is that someone who seems so proudly to represent herself as Christian seems unaware of the hypocracy of the selfish nature invloved in chiding and judging others for anything, let alone judinge them for being egoistic themselves.

And yes, Olympiya's original message broached a subject you felt compelled to speak up on. Good for you. Don't you just wish though that you could have done so in a way that wouldn't have lead to where we are now? As much as I might agree with you on the sadness concerning the original subject, I have to say that I'm also now feeling a little sad to think that for me, as for you it seems, to let God into my heart, it would mean cultivating a sense of paranoia and mistrust towards anyone who hasn't. Or is it a part of your beliefs that those who do not already believe as you don't deserve any respect at all?

Again, I respect your decision to broaden the discussion, and truth be known, I'm actually kind of rooting for you to sway my opinion so that I might give up on the doom-sayers among mere men and give myself to and trust completely in God's will and His plan for everyone and everything. I'm actually envious of the kind of peace of mind that those who do actually say that they feel.

I don't think it is a prerequisite that you have to believe in god, religion, aliens or anything else to see the difference between right and wrong. If you see a child in front of you who is starving while you have plenty do you need a god to make you feel less than human for not caring? The bottom line is we are all human and part of being human means we have a choice over our natures unlike wild animals. We can choose to believe in god. We can choose to believe there is no god. We can choose to believe we live in a bigger world that what is just outside our front door or we can live in our own fantasy world where none of our actions or our inaction affects anyone but ourselves.

I don't think Laughing Girl needs to convince you of anything. You already know the difference between right and wrong because you already have identified it as an injustice and something wrong with the world. The only thing you need to be convinced of is that you as a human among billions of other humans can make a difference if you really tried.

I have always found it fascinating when I look at the biographies of people who have 'changed' the world, be it Abe Lincoln, Marie Curie hell even Bill Gates if you want to go so far. The most remarkable thing about these peoples lives is that that were to all intents and purposes remarkably unremarkable. The did not come for privileged backgrounds, they were not born with superpowers, they did not wake up one day at the age of 12 and say "I'm going to change the world", hell half of them would not have believed you if you told them they would be world famous. But that is the difference between dreaming your dreams and chasing them.

Yes this thread has veered off a little bit but that is the whole point of discussion forums. It is about challenging ideas , sharing thoughts , putting forward different points of view.

Given a choice between Laughing Girl's world where people are nice to each other because it is right and they believe it is gods will, than a soulless one in which people only take and never give because they don't believe in consequences, I know which I would pick.

I get the impression that religion is only flawed when people themselves are flawed. The basic tenements of wouldn't it being nice to people for a change didn't really need some poor guy being nailed to a tree to be valid. It just .

It just is.

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Ahem.. of course what I >meant< to say was.

The basic tenements that the world would be a better place if people started being nice to each other for a change are true. It really didn't need some poor guy being nailed to a tree for that to be valid. It just is.

Hey ho.

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Yes, very true.
If life were only easy I don't think anyone of us would have any reason at all to treat anyone else in any other way but nicely.

Yes, from what I think I understand of what you said, I don't disagree with you at all.

About the difference between dreaming your dreams and chasing them though, do you mean to say that those who actually affect profound change seem to do so out of some basic nature within themselves that they don't even necessarily recognize? That for them, maybe even having stopped to fully contemplate their actions or how important their efforts might one day be, actually may have been a hinderance and would have lessened what it was that each ultimately accomplished? Moral being that maybe living in too many high-minded thoughts of the "what if's" concerning the fate of the entire world are maybe doomed to limit the potential that we all have for bringing about positive change simply when small opportunites presents themselves to us each day in the here and now?

Given the same choice between Laughing Girl's world view or that of a completely soulless one I would no doubt choose the same as you. For however much a pessimist I may be though, I don't see people generally as being soulless and purely selfish. A world in which each and everyone of us were that way seems just as unlikely to me as Laughing Girl's. That choice between the two seems one that would never really present itself.
I think you're very right in pointing out that we perceive the condition of the world based only on our own perspectives. And moerso, I think that maybe we even necessarily subconsciously limit the scope of our persepctives to those areas wherein we actually feel we matter, wherein we feel we can contribute some good. I mean, to stop and think about all the suffering happening the world over at this very moment and then to realize what little each of us individually can do to stop it, that's not a very pleasant thing to do. And to be constantly mindful of that? That can't be emotionally healthy, can it? If you think about things that way, I guess it kind of seems understandable that more people aren't more concerned and willing to do more for the suffering of those so far from them.

Eh, Whatever your beliefs, it just seems to me that if someone exhibits any kind dispair at the state of the world, that it would be better to try your best to feel compassion for that person, to understand what you can of the perspective they are coming from, relate to them the best you can from their perspective, and then kindly present that person whatever reason for hope you might be able to offer. To do that rather than mock or scold or alientate in any way just seems ultimately the better way to deal with people. And for a Christian, a person whose religion is built on the tenets of compassion and love and forgiveness, that seems the only way to deal with people.

Yes, in spite of exam times, you deserve a great day, with lots of kisses from all your admirers on cam! :-)

thank u alot my friends :D better 1 day earlie than later?;)

Happy Birthday my dear... though it is still June 16 here... :))) We can celebrate both days, and eat more cake that way.

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Happy bday Casa) Gemini too eh?))

thank you alot :) yes gemini too ;) xxx

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thank u to everybody:)

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It's a kind of digital entertainment, isn't it...?

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For making it clear that HotForWords is not a host on here (I can now give up searching) :P

I checked her out and she certainly is hot :)

I contacted her and posed the question :)

She replied and asked what my real name was :) :)

I replied, telling her my name :) :) :)

She replied again :) :) :) :)

She said 'That's best description of wanker' :(

I think she makes mistakes now and again?? :p

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how is someone meant to "private message" u or "cc mail" u when u dont tell them ur screen name?

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no i wouldnt volunteer....unless u r the original poster in which cae i'll b the first in line and fight everyone else off :p

An offer I have been waiting for my entire (CC) life. You sound really special, so "Let's hook up"!
/sarcasm OFF

You mean you don't believe that there are only 3 hosts on this site that I have not had sex with :(

you had sex even with the host in Boys home alone?!?!... scary... :-P

Actually boys home alone was the only category I was talking about lol.

dude ur freakin me out now...that drink we were gonna meet up for is now officially cancelled!!!!!

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well i do for the right ppl.....he isnt one of them ppl...do u think u r? :p

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try me and u'll find out ;)

Since When?

Since I agreed to meet him for a drink.

Hmmm; I'm not sure it would be a polite or pleasant thing to do to mention any names. So I won't.

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Yes there are some very beautiful women on here who are as sexy as a 420 lb naked hairy man with a 2cm todger but like Delphi I think it is rude to mention names.

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Whenever I see TMM's pics I can't help thinking of the movie Play Misty for Me

lol, last time i had video with TMM during fall contest, she was wearing some very provocative clothes that made me look back and drool

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beauty is not always what you see from outside!! the real BEAUTY is from inside.....and i know you well enougth to say you are Beautifull Lady Dasha

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I agree with aishiteru and I think that angeldash is beauiful.

I find you very beautiful. Even when you think that you are "unsexy". You have a smile that can light up a room and its really adorable when you smile big and wrinkle your nose. You are very beautiful and never think that you aren't!

In the first round, I was one who mentioned a beautiful girl about whom I added I was not sure you all find her sexy, because in my opinion beauty has an absolute value, it is a view from an aesthetic point of view, it can have even some absolute criteria (proportions, shapes, etc.)
I think being sexy is something more personal: for instance, somebody will find a girl with big breast and proeminent booty quite sexy while others will be aroused by a tiny slim girl with perky A cup tits. In this area, nature must be such that each girl looks sexy for some guys, and others for other guys. I don't think there is any suggestion one can make, unless "target" guys are well defined. Last example: a "mistress" in dungeon will appeal to would be "slaves", and she should appear as such, not as a sweet romantic girl!

We are in a very intangible territory, what makes one sexy. I think to some extent it is experience itself which provides the clue. An attractive, but young, woman gives one a wink and it is just that: a wink from an attractive woman. A wink from a mature woman has an entirely different aura of sexuality about it. A younger woman pulling on her stockings knows instinctively (or theoretically) that it will no doubt be arousing to an observer. The more experienced woman knows at first hand (practically) the emotions she arouses: and this again instils her with a sexiness. The confidence and self-assuredness that comes with experience again enhances the sexiness: becoming familiar with one's effect on others, and exploiting it for mutual enjoyment. Is the patina which gives a sculpture beauty. Hope some of this makes sense, addressing the indefinable is never going to be very scientific.

ask war :he knows the answer:D

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going after war is one thing, but why dont you leave that woman alone, she hasnt been her for 2 yrs for reasons we all know

i said nothing bad about- i only sugessted to the OP who were the beauty of this site

you know little man...........anon was right, hyo can come for me anytime and say whatever you want. leave the woman out of this in ur dislike of me.......she deserves that

dont be so paranoic mate, here is not about you - it was just an opinion about a beautiful woman.

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
god people what happend to courage:); we all know "beauty is in the eye of beholder" thus, just say it - are you ashamed of your own taste or your own unperfections?!! should he/she refraze the question and ask - who is YOUR beauty-queen? (thought that goes without saying)

muahaaa to all

you go girl. i love ImSandra

yessssssssss:P thank youuuuuuuuuuuuu :D I love hopeful:P

ImSandra would you really like to read on this forum that people find you unattractive or not sexy ?

well hun, this topic was about beauty not ugliness if i understood well?!! and why not? my traffic shows if im attractive to some man or not to others - as i said, noone can be attractive in everyones eyes - at least thats how i see it - so if someone thinks im not attractive or what ever negative about me, i wouldnt mind - its his/hers opinion; and as this topic is in question, i would like to read and see what man see as beauty of woman
muahaaa

Thanks for the reply :)

I am not a woman but I am very beautiful and a sexy beast.... (LOL)

yeah you are brew..lol

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good to know I have a fan. ;)

Yes Big Bertha is not sexy at all

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Yes if she date women

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dont let her date other men unless they pay her

I agree with you. Good point!

her ass would be out here!!!!

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Yeah , i think like you Akina, he will lose her one day if he let her date guys, a date is a special moment to seduce the other, even if the other guy has alot of defaults, he can appear better than you for a short moment and she can be seduced even if she will regret it later. Don t take this risk...Meoow

Yeah tell her to go for it.

but tell her: Dont forget to charge! :-P

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Dating implies interest in a relationship, whether it be sexual, platonic or otherwise. Assuming your relationship with this person has been monogamous or agreeable permissive to this point, it would seem she has decided to move on in her life. Telling you , rather than simply abandoning you, may be an act of kindness or a ploy. It's never easy to know which. Ahh, but it really does not matter as it does appear your relationship with her has run it's course. While several scenarios may be in play here , none would seem to point toward the two of you being together much longer. Good luck and best wishes.

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So why are there more women than men PP God Is been cruel ?

Im with Olympiya. You got it right girl! It's a Lucky man to get you.

What does working as a "toyboy" mean? Can someone explain? That might shed some light on why she wants to date other men.

Its a non-commitment partner whom to share interests and certain activities together. Otften physically and it doesn’t influence a deep feeling at all.

no, but i assume you do? do tell (sarcasm)

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I have a big secret, dying to share but afraid to reveal it

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i have lots of secrets but i don't want to share them because they're about me & i prefer to be considered boring instead of pitied,scorned or ridiculed(more than i am now) :--)

I have one but ill leave it in the closet PP

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I think, he wanted to write =Sex=

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plssssssssssss

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Ditto.

Yes. Everyone here does. Don't you?

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secrets add mystery to an already mysterious girl....why would u want to let the secret out? would kinda make an already sexy (mysterious) girl seem rather boring....

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Akina...I agree with you..If I tell it is no longer a secret.

lol Akina, you have too many secrets btw

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It seems the question was whether or not we have a secret about someone here, rather than a secret in general. With that in mind I will tell you, without mentioning names, three. One is a host I know who is actually from a wealthy family and professes to be much younger than she is. Another is about a host who is married to two people on different continents with neither of her husbands knowing of the other. Lastly, there is a host who was born male, but is now completely female. And I will never tell their names..

I know 3 popular solo hosts who have done b/g or toy shows for exclusive clientel (me) not available to general public.

I have one fav host here, was in Friends and Family, now in Glamour. Everyone thinks she's Miss Goody Two Shoes, but in 121 sessions with me, she loves to flirt so much, she gets carried away and I see much and stay long!

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I get online and i dig and dig and dig I have so many secrets i would start the the cold war all over if i revealed PP

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I agree, good comment and people should be considerate

thoughtless comments reflect more on those who make them & heed them,than those that are the subject :--)

Agreed. Politeness costs nothing so quite why people have to spit bile all the time is a mystery.

TNTNRHNRTJSNYS

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personally, i prefer honesty to any kind contrived mannerly bullshit.

well, there are a (VERY) few girls on here that guys need to know about b4 they get into their rooms. 99% of the girls here are cool, ploite, friendly, wanna have some fun, wanna talk, wanna be someone......the other 1%.....?.....you decide for yourself why I posted this thread like this.....

Marilyn Monroe

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Has to be....Aishwarya Rai....everytime. And as runner-up (you'll probably need to google this if you are outside the UK) Anjali Jay.

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Wow. A definite case can be made for the first woman you mentioned. But you totally lost me on the second one. In other words I wouldn't be 100% comfortable with you setting me up on a blind date.

Audrey Hepburn and Christina Aguilera

Audrey Hepburn for sure, and if you check out TheCharming you will see her twin here at CC ;)

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lorraine bobbit

louise savage :--)

Tisme did you mean Lily Savage as I can imagine "her" being right up yur street :P

im not a male but im in love with Aishwarya Rai ..... Scarlett johansson ...AND ChARLIZE Theron ..........MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ;)

Margaret Rutherford, Catherine The Great of Russia :-)

oh and Elizabeth I of England

Well im not a guy but gimme Monica Bellucci anytime!!! When i see her im feeling gay lol))) Megan Fox too, but this one is more of a "dirty hot", while Monica is a classic beauty)

ohh yea.. monika i love too ,how could i forget of her :P

Yeah how is it possible???lol)

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Monika, u have the eyes of megan fox,
but ur tits are much much nicer than hers!
(believe me, i tasted them ;))

Lol have u "tasted" hers too?=))

would i be able to compare if i had not ? ;)

federica ridolfi and Natasha Kaplinsky, 2 sexy ex newsreaders

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Catherine Zeta Jones..............Natalia Portman

Jennifer Ellison and Amanda Holden.

And I got you babe's first choice. Especially when she was in Bride and Prejudice.

Oh and If I'm allowed a porn actress - Shyla Stylez.

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Not sure i get your post right but would not find a new gf from here if my first relationship failed.

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:DDDD

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Spoken like the true and classy lady that u are.

Excuse me I need to visit the men's room.

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I am sorry you trusted the wrong person. He who really loves a woman doesn't ask her to do what he asked you to do. He was selfish and took advantage of your feelings for him. I had a gf here, but it was the opposite of your case. I always paid all of our video sessions, but she would send her ym cam to other guys she calls "friends" and she continue to do it. She is always invisible sending her ym cam to the guys she likes. I never asked her for a show, paid or free, and she never did one for me. It was my decesion, but she never respected me and she never stopped flirting to other men. I am sorry to say it, but DJ only wanted "free shows" from you, and that's no gentleman. God knows how many other girls he did the same. I am glad you are over your pain. It's really hard to trust anyone here. Thing is that not only here, but there will always be the bad people taking advantage of others weakness. Keep loving, dont turn ur back on love, soon there will be someone who really values you.

The answer is yes. I had a true relationship on here. It can, and does happen. :)

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*speechless* just a big sigh from here...
all I can say is that.... cheer up and smile :-)
Life's still beautiful after all, pains, hopes, love hatred and
everything are just spices of life, without it. I think Life would be very bitter. Think about it cheers girl ;) I guess we're both in pain but
still glad that my "guy" didn't lie to me... he always speak the truth, need further explanations??? ohh nooo... just leave it to me guys LOL (winks!) have a great weekend ALL

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"start a real relationship here, it does work ;)" Thanks to say it u make me feel better. I will try tonight to say her the love i feel, for her, for the way she smile, for her wonderfull eyes.......

A relationship that grows over the weeks and months, that blossoms into something more than just chat and cam2cam. The other messenger outlets, the phone calls and the constant texting. The making plans to meet, and, possibly stay together.
Then the deep biting uncertainty and jealousy of knowing your host is with other members, gwawing deep in your guts until the wrong words are spoken and the dream is shattered.
There, from start to end, a potted version of true events.

Sorry if that's your experience, but if people meet in person and fall in love, and it is for real...then naturally the girl will quit working as a host. And, if the man loves her, he will have to provide some support. There are real relationships, I'm sure, but if the girl keeps working and the guy keeps visiting other hosts....it is just a farse.

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Ahhh...I see there's been some offline talking. You are out of line...spreading line is NOT helping your business. I talked to her in the past, and thought her a friend; either I was wrong or you are lying.

Azterix

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Akina, this was not intended for you, but you gave me good advice in the past and you are a very professional host and a genuinely nice person. I miss our conversations. I wasn't blaming the hosts, but you brought it up personal, which is OK. Hope you're doing well.

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Yes, I can see that. And I'm sure you always mean well. Some people don't, and they can burn in hell. Hugs and kisses, Stephen

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Wow....let me tell you first....I am not that much of a catch....so if Akina tried to steal me...good for her that she lost...Akina was a good friend to me when my GF was giving me the boot. That's the truth. We dont talk anymore, but I respect her a lot.

Azterix (Stephen)

waaa you must be a rich men that akina want to steal you az :) in fairness hope i can steal you too az lol:P
my best wishes to everybody here and to everyone who 's already happy in thier partners. i dont wanna fall w/ anybody online i learnd my lesson so ciao to all " stop in the name of love"

kiss to you az

you still my naugty girl Akina who ever go in ur vid or not

Az that can't be you?!?!i could never imagine you spelling farce incorrectly :--)

T'isme, tisme... ;) My first post in cc for as long as I can remember.

Forgive my misspellings, I was upset when I posted that.

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Frankly I really hope u are wrong, I really like if it will happens to me she is so kind, sweet and cute I want to fight for this relationship to be the most beautiful and longest possible.

if you have to fight for it your doomed,but if you have to work at it then hope is eternal :--)

*you're

The moral of the story is - if you don't meet and spend some time togethor for real then it is just fantasy, people take it seriously but they shouldn't. If a guy can't be bothered to get on a plane to see you then he isn't serious.

Yes, but "If a guy can't be bothered to get on a plane to see you then he isn't serious" The girl needs to make him feel special, for him to want to expend the emotional energy to get on that airplane. It's the little things she can do, surprise sms, wanting him to call etc. If not that, then no getting on an airplane!

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excellent outlook imo :--)

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i cam here looking for friends because i lost a huge part of my life that i can't seem to find anymore. It's lonely when you loss that one person who your heart speaks to, then one day she is gone, and gone not because she wanted to leave, gone because god felt she was to good to be here on this earth. there are a lot of girls who have made the lonelyness subside. there are the few that have offered a element of pleasure. there are a few that have offered an element of passion. then there are the special ones who offer a friendship, even though the friendship is miles and miles apart from each other. You accept what you can, offer the same in return and maybe, just maybe, the future will hold something special if the person {host} you talk to, and you, make a connection. if it is ment to be, it will happen, just don't push it....and keep reality in check.

Twocats,
If I read your post correctly, I am sorry about your loss. And there is nothing wrong in seeking friendship, sex, companionship here. Just keep in mind that you are paying by the minute. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you are aware of that fact.

There are good people here, and people who will eat you up...sometimes slowly. So enjoy your relationships here, I think cc is a good thing...but like you said...keep it realistic.

Best of wishes,
Azterix (Stephen)

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Hi Domino, yes I still have a number of good relationships from CC, 2 left some time ago but we chat all the time, one I met twice. Let down by another I thought was a true friend but I have just have to write it off to experience - win some, lose some. kisses to you

GRL4PLY has the shortest hair i've seen here. doesn't take away the fact that she has a killer bod. :P

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LOL - Arghhh been hiding in my corner and yah caught me????
Hmmm.... I supposed to hide better next time :-P
love yah too Bea, thanks for being there for me "always!" you're superb

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LOL sissy I'm not speaking to myself but in general :-D read again spank yah butt hehe... hey! I'm Ok don't worry bout me, I'm no dying yet LOL - thanks for ur concern anyway, but I'm Ok really :-)

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coz i cant win poker without cheating

Because that's what people do.

O love them all 19 equally

simply bcoz that's part of a game (hehe)
btw are we talking bout gambles here (LOL)

You should lay them on the table for all to see ;)

Euhm, because diversity is the spice of life?
And because I usually sit at the back of the class, and most of my teachers are kinda blind.

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and you accept all the results?

Hey, you made you in charge of lifes rules? Who said I was cheating? I am just playing the game of life MY WAY! :D

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In a 1 male out of 1 male poll here - the result was .....

I don't bloody care if it's got dreadlocks - just gimme whatever you got!

I pick option 4 or option 5. I am not a fan of hair.

In order of preference: 4,2,3,5,1 :)

have to go with 5 or 4 .. 1 scares the hell out of me

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good news. bout time hairy started making a comeback. girls without a bush are exactly that. i prefer women.

oh. and #2 works. shave the bikini line. nobody likes to see all ur stuff "hangin out." there a difference between hairy and unkempt.

4 or 5. preferably 5.bald all the way baby!

I like a sexy landing strip. Triangle is good too. Bald is great too, but if you're gonna go that route, then best keep it smooth. The five o'clock shadow, or 2-3 day old stubble doesn't really go well with pussy.

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hairy like animals or just enough hair so you know its a man?

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good to know :)

Of course you know men with more body hair usually have higher levels of testosterone which leads to increases sex drive :)

strange how high levels of testosterone can cause hair to sprout from every part of the body except the top of the head.

#5 bald is best. #4 is sometimes ok. Hairy looks unclean to me.

Ohhh noooo!!
Only hairy candies all around... that will surely be my last day as a viewer...

ok me definitely it's 1 !
hairy triangle sex... so .... true sexual attirance !!
mmmm but at CC maybe not so much guys with hairy taste ? ... or such guys go try find hairy girls at other site for ? ...

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Shaved sucks- with hair there is more to look at. Landing strip even better.

You might be right about that

... but I doubt it .... :)

nobody likes a know-it-all... doesn't matter if its a man or woman. mb u should sometimes give ppl time to catch up to ur super-smart brain and figure out things for themselves. us mortals will appreciate ur patience ;)

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Did you go to her country and meet her? If the answer is no, how can you expect to have a relationship with somebody who you have never met?

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Agree with my friend :-)

Please don't "tar" all hosts with the same black brush... even those who are not completely truthful may have their reasons. I know that relationships happen on CC, but it takes the stars aligning in complete harmony for that to happen, and you are far better off not expecting to find that here.

What you can find are personable, warm, beautiful hosts like Avr0ra... :) (who by the way is another sexy Russian host)

I had a relation similar to heartbroken. Me and this girl host chatted for almost a year. She always told me she was single, after 8 months of our relationship she promised me she never had a bf and she was happy to find me. One day I tell her I was coming to meet her in her city and she confessed she has a bf of her same age that she's dating. It was really hard for me. We sent letters, emails, talked on the phone, and she always told me I was the best, and the only one she loves. She never forced me to come to her vid. It was not a need. I know her feelings were true. But, all that time making plans and talking sweet and she was dating another guy. How can girls do that? She then promised me that if I moved permanently to her city she will break up with her city town bf. She told me he was only her boy toy. Huh? Cool, isn't it?

Sorry to hear about ur story mr. heartbroken whoever you are, but to tell you frankly it's not just you who have experienced such thing, if you experienced it some host experienced it too, please be FAIR bcoz not all HOST/MEMBERS are telling lies.

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chated with a cool guy on cc,everyday ,we wanted meet,after 14 mounth he said its just a game for him.he have a wife.dont trust to all this guys on cc.they r all lie.(had experiance not with one only like this)

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Somehow it's funny:

Host: All guys are lier and play game with you
Member: All hosts are lier and play game with you

Hmmmm, strange but seems to be true. Both sentences!
Well, I also experienced similar with a host. But well, that's life and life will go on. And I still think not all people are the same. If one host like to play such weird games, there is also a host who is honest.

how do you think about this? a guy suggested to meet me in a certain country, I calculated all exchange rate to change the money, and searched for a nice & fitable hotel. and told all my friends & family. so I was 90 % surely to go there. And he moved to other country bcs of business, we made appointment again, I gave him my cell phon #, home #, and searched for a nice hotel again. he tells again, he's in another country in this time. once, he wanted to come in my country, I searched for all hotels, where he can sleep with good-price and comfortable and in good-place. He said and delaying..I'm not sure wether he was really 7 days later I left there. Once, I bought for him a nice perfume which is the new one, and most favoriate among guys, it was almost 100 $, he deserved. bcs he payed a lot, and I bought it really with my pleasure, and I went to buy it for taking 30 min bus to another city. and it was good packing with ribbon, for present. now he's saying he's other country, and he will make arrange for other meeting with me. what will you expect in this case? will you follow him? or now stop it? he's lots of payment guest :)>:)

Don't believe anything else he might say in the future, don't put yourself out for him, and just keep him interested enough to continue parting with his $$$. You sound really sweet and he's taking advantage of your good nature.

and maybe other opinions more?? maybe if you take those guest really. and maybe if you like those guests really friendly or so.. :D

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thanks for update. well, the most strange thing is, his voice was really different, I've got just one photos of him. long time, blond. under 180 cm like if could be a voice what I supposed to think. when I contact to him call where he stays that hotel, his voice was really strange, very shy. not like Boss style. this is why I think so strange. if guys are okay, why they are hide their cam? I had more then 1 year with him. then maybe he could get bring his cam slowly. but never watched how he looks like really :-P

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I don´t think, this Guy is married but I was very jealousy when he got once girlfriend, at his another country, what is hard to thing to believe how can he moves 4-5 times a month other country aim business trip. is it so necessary to send a person to settle problem ? is there no computer? now digital epoch. tele communication era. I don´t think, it´s needed to send a person like a pick up letter in bird´s mouth and send him other country :) just put on post wanted to hear follow majority´s opinion. have a nice day ..

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Aha... sometimes we forget there are at least two sides to every story... good luck putting the pieces together.

Sooooooooo funney hertbroken and heartbroker LOOOOL

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WHO KNOWS )))))

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true words! ...there are always two sides of the coin.
hosts break hearts, members break hearts.
and real relationship NEEDS to spend time together

you are such a sweet girl taking care of peoples problems..... kissssssssssss

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Arghh!!!! nOw I'm real sad.... I guess I know heartbroken and heartbroker... know what guys, YOU TWO JUST NEED TO TALK Okay???? I know you both love each other so please take some time to talk, take time to sit back and think about everything. it's only "misunderstanding" I always tell you that BOTH.
Wish I can help you to sort things out but I also feel down at the very moment, I'd be happy to see you both back into each others arms again, you're both a good friend of mine, so please sort it out guys.
I wish you both LUCK. hugs!!!

i agree with sweet. you guys need to work it out. the boss has spoken and you both will be fired if you don't listen to me. please don't air your problems in the forum either. talk amongst yourselves.

Hayyyy at long last there's somebody out there who agree with me for the very first time, and to think of it... it's the BOSS who agree with me (hehe) kiss yah boss! :-P

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Annuex

She is not only the sexiest black host on here bust she is one of the sexiest girls on here period. She is amazing!

I second that,i have had the pleasure of getting to know her and she is truly amazing!

check her out--sexy, beautiful, great personality, sense of humor and always has a smile and very polite to chat with--did i mention, "HOT"

Annuex is sexy alright,hard to find though...maybe just my bad luck :(

I have been to Afrocentric1 and i think she is amazing and so wanting to do anything you want

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yes ur rite i know she is cuz i have been with her in real life, a really beautiful girl and and a caring person

Annuex no doubt.the best looking i have ever seen period!

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Tesscada, xLISSAx, MisSeductive, ROSEBUD, richbaby, and Lazergirl. These are my russian sweeties.

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i must agree, callmejolie, most seductive i've known, hehe, and yana and olga

tafille? looooooooooooooool

agree with tafille........only darlinka is better

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Monikababe.

Awwwwwwwwwww my lil sugarrrrrrrrrr(K)(K)(K)(K) Luv ya:)

Has to be TellMeMoree

lol funny only hosts tried to answer this question....now the real question will be: how do these hosts know about who is the best and sexiest russian host?:P
interisted to know this answer:))

Well, i don't know about the others...but my opinion was based on the fact i know Ksenia ( Monikababe) for 2 years already and I had the chance to meet her in real for a few days even though we are from different countries...and even if I am a woman and i'm straight...I can say that she is breathtaking.

you should have made a playback video with her . id pay $5 per min to watch it ;)

Lol actually we wanted to but got drunk and forgot abt it;) Was so much fun, Alex is the very best, im lucky to have a friend like that:)

Monikababe & XextasyX together in playback??? I'd be BROKE and HOMELESS. Go for it girls...it's worth it! lol

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still, u r being bias in ur decision.

and no one else is with their selection?

i am with someone else's selection :-P

it has to be richbaby :)

I like tafille, DarlingHelen, and Adalina03021. They very sexy hot!

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not sure you can ever say one or another is the best..but Misstake does it for me

Ambitious...still the theme of my dreams...

Im not telling and dont want you guys to find her

Anitabella for sure.

Agree... AnitaBella for sure,
and Casablancka too... :)

hoodoo I thought you left lol ))

I do read the forums; they're free lol... and there's a nice sense of community here that I miss.

Besides, I need to support my dear friends...

xblondyxx

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tafille ofc and darlinghelen....and dont forget naty4u...all my sweethearts

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oh..and i forgot angeldash

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Babygoddess too :) She is very sexy as well. I forgot to mention her with my favorites.

her too ofc..silly me

agree with all choices obirogkenobi...beautiful ladies all!

Hmmm not that I want to say it is an unfair question but the truth is I have known, do know, many wonderful hosts who also happen to be Russian. Funny thing is they continue to be wonderful Russian women even after being hosts so it is a tough call for me.

Maybe I just have a soft spot for Russia having become quite enchanted by their poetry and literature. I hope I make my Russian friends feel special enough that they know it, but then again I hope all my friends in any country know I do not take them for granted.

I can promise you all, you are not.

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Can I put my finger down my throat and gag now ))

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The Naked Truth Does Know Who Is The Sexiest Russian Host But Will Not Tell?

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Would have to give to a Russian host who has moved on...she did give wonderful shows to a select few(BTW IT"S NOT TRIKSY...But would put her as #2)...lots have tried to get a show but no dice, which made it all the more special for the chosen few!!!!

TRIKSY(AKA Triksygirl)!!!!

I saw the whole thing. Ha Ha.

Me too ;-)

Got you both beat. Still getting it.

I agree... I am just left with memories :-(

For me the sexiest Russian host is Karenstar.

Best ever had to be LittleSonya. Long gone but not forgotten

what about xangel20x?

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Wow dude, are you and I the only ones who remember that beauty?

must be pam

anybody looked at Justsexygirl?????

Fantasy21 is my favorite!

Is or was )) Only problem she has long nose ))

well, angelxdevilx provides 3 great examples, callmejolie, best ever, such a seductive and sensual, puremiraclex just sexy, richbaby, so cool

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slave4hard is the absolute sexiest Russian host anywhere

For my taste Shezel is 1 of a kind!!! Love her!!

Adalina03021. She is drop dead gorgeous!!!

In my humble opinion TellMeMoree has it all, good looks, cute figure, nice clothes and excellent conversation. Can flirt with the best when she's in the mood. And her eyes and smile are out of this world.