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Shameless self-promotion! Er.... who are you?

Happy Birthday!

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RE: Life

You're advising everyone here to get up from behind their computers and go outside and actually live life? :P

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RE: Life

oh no, the real world! Game over man, game over!

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RE: HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!!!!

Congratulations !!!! I'm so pleased for you. Now keep on with your studies. :)))

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RE: HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!!!!

Great you did it! Keep it going and ... good luck for next term!

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I see no reason to doubt you'd ace your biophysics exam; you are quite a specimen yourself. Congrats!!

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The speciman of my dreams :) Congrats love! I new you would do it...and will continue to do so!

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RE: HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!!!!

Congratuations!!! That is always good results to receive. We are proud of you!!!!

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What\'s up with \

It doesn\'t seem to matter which characteristics you specify, all kinds of results show up. I just did a search for a white, slim, straight female with long blonde hair & \"other\" eye color & I got blonde & brunette women, guys, & couples.
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it depends on what the host put in thier description, some like to cast a big net and say they have it all in hopes of getting more customers. I'm waiting my next search when I find a black chinese woman with blond hair.

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I repeated your search and also got boys and couples included in the results.Purely in the interests of trying to find an explanation I checked out the profiles of some of these and in the four hosts profiles I looked at they all had the potential for more than 1 host to log on using that name.So bbko may indeed find his black chinese woman with blonde hair lol

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Yes,Very Often,No,No wife,Yes very often

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Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

I am not looking for sympathy although I am sure some will speak as you wish. I expect you will kick me in the head for being stupid. At my age I should not be so naïve.

Well, I join the club of fools who think they found a wonderful girl here on CC only to discover it is a bunch of shit and lies. I was slow to come to this conclusion but this last episode convinced me. This was not the first tine I should have realized I was a fool, but it is the last time with her.

She stopped working here (so she told me) once I started sending her money to replace her CC wages. She has been telling me that she would come stay with me this summer and she needed money to solicit the assistance of an agency to obtain a work and travel VISA. I thought since we had been together a three times in real life that she was trustworthy, But what an Ass I am for such trust. Like the monthly payments was not enough already. Well once I gave her the money, a week later her girls friends and her were off traveling to Egypt again. Big surprise? Probably should not be a surprise to me or to anyone.

A word of caution and good luck to those of you who think you found a good woman here. In my opinion, chances are you are being used.

I will not reply to comments made here, but I might reply to CCmail sent to me.
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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Welcome in the "CLUB" ... :))))))))

We will never say it HARD enough : never send money... it's a Porn Site here and not a Dating Site... :))))))))))

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Rule # 1 = Never get sentimentally involved with any video chathosts.
Rule # 2 = Never meet with someone who works in a porn site.
Rule # 3 = Never give money to someone who professes "love" to you, unless she is already your wife and you both already live together.
Summary, never believe any girl here even if you think yourself to be better than Brad Pitt. Girls never know what they want and will always find the next man more attractive, intelligent, smarter, prettier, charming, more educated, richer, taller, sexier, etc...

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

While chatting to an ex-gf from cc on Yahoo recently, she told me she & her husband were looking for a place to move to & that THEY had lived there for 5 years. 5 years ago would've only been about half way through our relationship. When I found out about him in June or July of '04 she told me she had only been with him for two weeks before I found out.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Give us her screen name... maybe it will help some other members :)))

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over: To Member

I don't know her screen name on here. I haven't been a member for years.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Been there, done that. I did the same as yourself and my ex-gf did the same your ex-gf did. She said she likes to have "male friends", but friends and nothing more and I believed her... WRONG!!! She is a flirt and as every girl in this world, loves the attention and gifts she receives from the most men she can. I don't understand why girls can't be satisfied with just 1 man. Why do they have to flirt with other men if they already have a bf whom they say I love you? Don't blame yourself for trusting her. You weren't the evil one in this story. You acted in good faith and she took advantage. There is such a thing called Karma and everything will come back to you double of what you do to others. Cheers mate!

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Well said:)

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

and this girl here is another big liar too....

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

are you suggesting that she scammed you out fo money?

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Hopefully you'll heal soon and realize you got off lucky. Imagine the damage she could've done, emotionally and financially, if you married her. Yup, you had a hard lesson, but it could've been worse. Be glad you're a quick study.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

I know it would be hard to police but there should be a means to boot the ones her that solicit (directly or indirectly) money outside of this site. It happens continually and I'd like to see it put to a stop!! Period. End of story.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Sorry I disagree.We are all adults and have to accept responsibility for our own actions.

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Oh yes, that has happened to me and continues to happen to others. Wise-up guys!! This is a pornsite first and foremost. Do believe anything you hear. Believe me...the girls here are laughing all the way to the bank.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

LOL, LOL, LOL, -------> Bank

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

chicks are fucking funny sometimes aren't they?

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Yep... especially when they're with their mouth full :P

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Join the club, partner. A lot of us here have been through the same experience. The girls on this site have money signs in their eyes. They care less about a guy who wanks on the other side of the screen. As a matter of fact, they consider you a pervert and not worth their time unless you have the money they want. It is unfortunate, but you need to remember, this is a porn site - not a dating site. And even with dating sites one does not send money. And if they ask you to sponsor them on their passport, say no. That happened to me and she ended up staying in New York with another guy she met on this porn site. I had a lot of explaining to the immigration department, but eventually, I think, she was deported by not abiding by her visa. Shucks!! That really breaks my heart!!! LOL

Good luck on your next beguiling. Don't let them feed you poison mushrooms.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Not surprisingly...No comment from hosts. Seems to be of minor concern. ;))

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what would be the point on them commenting on a member's recollections. there are usually 2 sides to every story & the truth lays somewhere in between.giving with expectations invariably leads to disappoinment.giving with no expectations gives satisfaction.just my opinion :--)

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Thats sad to hear my friend. I think this site would benefit from an informal support group of veterans of such extorition capers. Of course, it remains caveat emptor. If you pay the money you take the risk. But It would be relavant to be able to warn others of specific repeat offenders and for some authority to take appropriate action.

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"The girls on this site have money signs in their eyes. They care less about a guy who wanks on the other side of the screen. As a matter of fact, they consider you a pervert and not worth their time unless you have the money they want. It is unfortunate, but you need to remember, this is a porn site - not a dating site. And even with dating sites one does not send money. And if they ask you to sponsor them on their passport, say no. "

Well Said. I hope other members learn!

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

you sound like a guy who says "what did she expect when she entered a biker bar wearing a tight shirt and mini?" In this scenario tisme would say " it wasnt sexual assualt the bikers were misunderstood, there are two sides to every story."

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

that made me laugh!!! LOL

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

Tisme's giving with no expectations is correct, no expectations that the person asking and receiving the money, is honest, ethical, truthful. In tisme's world the giver is a masochist.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

In what world does sending a monthtly check to a chick in another country that your hung up on to keep her from fondling her growler on camera for other dudes make any kind of sense?
Yeah, stupidity never desesrves to be faulted ... right.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

tisme was the guy who had one of the hosts keep his balls for safekeeping.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

Something you won't have to worry about as you have none.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

a passable attempt at absurd humour.keep trying :--)

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

ahhh good to see the homo-erotic fantasies about my genitals are back.enjoy your dreams,big boy :--)

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over - AS A HOST

Primarily not a question of age. Perhaps more of judgement or lack thereof. When you meet outside, all bets are off. We're human and mostly repeat the same mistakes. People are risk takers, especially men, in search of what they preceive as love or more perhaps merely adventure. The older you become, perhaps the more disparate your search to find someone. In this playing field, beauty and promises can be intoxicating and lethal. Their are exception but I would say hedge your bet and don't look here for any sort of lasting relations.

So when men send money and trouble befalls it costs as well as usually getting your heart stomped on. Was it a good idea? Certainly not but maybe you learned smthg. Probably not.

More to the point, I have seen overt as well as covert tactics applied within cc to get money sent. Better put a gun to his head because he won't have any illusions of what's going down.

Promising something that was never intended is reprehensible when carried out in a predatory manner. Some continue to make it an adjunct career added benefit to working here. The immigration records overflow with examples as mentioned previously. Abusers should be drummed out for the benefit of all concerned.

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Well I met my husband online, we fell in love heels over head after our real meeting. He came to live in my country, we got married, then we moved to his country. I never stopped being on camsites part-time even though nowadays he makes 4-5 x my wage. Beleive it or not I never expected him to make so much money and when he proposed me to get married, I wanted to stay in my country and I agreed to support him financially if he moves with me. We lived there about 6-7 months before his tenants here stopped paying the rent and we had to move to his country to sort the house out. Well I never ever expected him to give me any money and I still contribute to the bills here. He is a very generous guy, buys me flowers every week, and lil presents as surprises but I also LOVE making him smile and happy. He is my world and I love him for being open-minded and ok with me being on camsites. I will never let him down and do something to hurt him. And saying that I keep flirting online, and usually don't say I'm married but this is because it brings more money :) but I've never tried to scam anyone online. Why would I?! I'm happy with my earnings anyway.
Well, that's it. Just my 2p

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I met my wife here too. It was a long process before I could finally bring her to my country (not USA). I met her only once before we decided to get married. I couldn't live in her country for the many inconveniences, but I supportted her financially before she could travel and live with me. She worked in a studio and although she worked in adults, her salary wasn't enough for her or anyone. We are now together and she wanted to contribute to pay the monthly bills, but she can't speak our language well so she still works as a hosts in cc. She also flirts and in some ocassions guys call her on the phone while in video. Sometimes she even sends her cam for free, but I am not a jealous man and I know she loves only me. After all she chose me to be her man and she's only playing along with others' fantasies. Not all girls here are bad, its just the way some members think.

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"she chose me to be her man and she's only playing along with others' fantasies"
isn't that the point though: not knowing whether she loves actually you, or she's saying so just to indulge your fantasy?

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for most people this would never happen. if it's your dream come true then so be it. i question anything of the sort as being realistic but then it take all types.

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I met my husband here and we got married ,he understand my job and supporting me but we had agreement to not meeting my viewers in person.I love him so much!i can quit working anytime i want but im still enjoying CC:):):)he knows all my passwords not hiding anything.I still playing with a guys here so games not over yet!hahaha!

Me-100,members-0-let the games continue!:D

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

we tried to tell you .. you would not listen...

My friend ! not all host are scamers

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

u did try to tell him !!! so did i ! ..but i respected his goals ...

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

so others will not fall into her trap .or her freinds trap .she will be back on cc ... this we know as a fact .she is going from having money and somebody who Loved her to NOTHING ...watch out rookie members on cc

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it's easy to avoid being scammed

don't send money!
and if your cc g/f really does care about you and your relationship, she won't ask for any!

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I believe in love.

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but do you believe in life after love?

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first of all i am responding to what you are saying. my question to you is did you tell her to quit cc and tell her that you would pay for her expenses? if you did then she is a probably young as compared to you and of course you didn't give us your age differences. she probably just took advantage of the situation and figured you would give her more money to pay for the visa again. you have to remember here that you are dealing with young girls that like to have fun. a lot of us older guys expect these hosts to just give up there lives because we work a lot and don't have lives. you need to ask yourself about the three meetings. would she meet you again? Did you and her have fun? did you meet her family and friends? these are important questions to ask yourself before you get all upset about her using your money for a trip. yes was it wrong for her to do.. no doubt but remember you are dealing with a younger woman possibly. Does she call you? Does she get upset if you disappear for a few days? These are important things in determining if she really cares about you. The point i am trying to make is that she met you three times. There had to be some feelings there. I am sure you paid for everything and you are grown man and you probably enjoyed yourself also by going to another country and if she is younger then you by a lot of years then you enjoyed being with a younger woman also. So i wouldn't condemn her because she is young and she figures you and her will get married and she wants to have a little fun. remember bachelor parties and bacherlorette parties. all fun!!!!!

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best thread post here by a mile IMHO - good on ya Rich

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

when i read this break up story . its make me sick to think .somebody can think they are perfect ..if its a host or a member .where you meet somebody you Like is not the problem ..its how you treat them and how they treat you !!!! ..paying attention to the signs before you get burnt ..i believe you had plenty of signs .. that something was going wrong ..maybe you was to worried about sex ..and you should have been thinking about the person she was .. and who she showed you she was !!!.maybe this host was not the best person ... but on cc thier are 10000s of honest and wonderful host .. from this lesson maybe next time you will be a little more cautious .. you will not leave cc .. you have needs ..the host have needs .you will find a real honest and trusting woman !!

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

"but on cc thier are 10000s of honest and wonderful host "
Wrong, the girls here have too many choices and opportunities. Most are young and they dont know what they really want. Most of us members are looking for serious relationships and the girls here are looking for new experiences and to have a blast in life. I have been told "I love you" or at least "I like you very much" by hosts here. They would not ask me for video and instead they would send me their cams through messengers, but not only to me... to many others too... My advice to other members is to look for love in their own city or town.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

hey, i am not looking for a serious relationship here, but most posts from most members i read indicate such. I never ask for a cam in messengers. How could I ask for a show or how could i show my genitals if a host sends her cam? it just doesn't happen like this, lol.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over is this a game ?

And u have been told to hosts "love u" ( not only one host but many of them same time). so what could u espect? did u expect that host will flirt only with u and send cam only for u? But my dear.. lie...someone who loves he feel that. I think u will find truly love only then u will denote yourself only one girl and only in time when u stop your choice on her and will stop looking for new and more attractive ones

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There are some good girls/women here. it has never been my experience to be scammed. [Then, get to my age and I know most of the angles]. I have never been asked for money, and only sent money one time, and that was because I wanted to.
Don't get me wrong, I have every sympathy for the thread starter, I know there are some women here who fill the desctiption to the full. It is the same the World over, you pays yer money, you takes yer chances.
Mere words cannot ease the pain and hurt, especially after a fair length of time together, but a timely warning to many of the new hosts and members joining this site.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!

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why you think so everybody?all girls need take care by someone here,pls try to make them happy,send money,buy presents,have holiday with them,enjoy yourself

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RE: MEMBER1, HOST: 0 - GAME Over

kısses,you are cute too

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Hey, come on, don't let one bad host get you down. There are plenty of other pretty ladies waiting to take your money. So turn that frown upside down and keep searhing for he next lady you are going to send money to.

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i am agree with laughing girl,no need to be regret after you had an adventure,otherwise you will stay at home and you will not complain about someone has made wrong to you.
first of all,lets accept that cc is a friendship site,not porn site,if you see here as porn site,you will go to the other sites,all girls here try to do something for their livings,i have known very perfect girls here as much as i couldnt meet ın my real life during visting this site in four years,please members and hosts,lets be respectfull to each others,my best regards,

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What CC is? friendship site? lol U look a little silly. Here girls sell their body virtually. We could call it "virtual prostitution", and I never knew a honest prostitute.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 1 -

know lots of prostitutes do you?

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 1 -

he's a member here, isn't he?

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 1 -

was talking about real life and if his answer is yes, he's even more pathetic than the rest of us

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 1 -

prostitutes are people too, you know. there's no need to bash or somehow try to shame an entire profession of hard-working, lovely women. to do so i think reflects worse on those who would use them only to try to elevate their own self-worth by disparaging them.

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replying to the wrong party, not naive disparaged prostitutes the other disparaged not naive

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good point

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 1 -

Like all "Johns" are the epitome of virtue? Come on... we are here with a variety of motivations, not all of them criminal, or immoral, or amoral, whatever. Sure, there's a profit motive at work here, and you ignore that at your peril as you go wandering through the dark halls of cc. But I consider Laughing Girl, for one, a friend, and friendship is the basis for the relationship. Truly.

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Oh, thank you :-)
And you are right. Of course CC includes not only dark halls and low instincts. Thats why it's so special.

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or an honest "john" for that matter :)

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

lol..thank you, Babe :-)

I don't know you but hope you are doing fine...

wow...with those stunning eyes I am sure you are ;-)

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

what do you do LG...wait around until someone posts an affirmation to you P.O.V? Is that how you bolster self-worth??

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

Four hours between the two posts hardly suggests sitting and waiting around.

But even if that were the case it is still preferable to the sort of snide little posts you and your ilk make.

Is that how you try to bolster your own self worth by attempting to drag everyone else down to your level ?

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Damn I'm so rusty at posting :(

The message should have been attached to who's laughing's post.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

I am just going through a very bad experience myself. Since we are on it, i'll vent :) It's a long read, but who cares. If you are reading the forums instead of masturbating, or meeting your future wife (or both), then you have plenty of time on your hands.

I met a girl here on CC about 4 years ago - and i got attached to her, in a way i had never been to any other girl before. We are about the same age (in case you were wondering). For one reason or the other (both of our jobs, studies, etcetera), we did not meet but until the last summer.
Things were almost all happiness with a few bumps here and there (nothing too bad). I caught her on some small lies, but my love for her was big enough to forgive her under the excuse that "she's just a young girl, she does not know how to handle things at times".

I truly loved her, but just like with any girl (not just the ones that work at CC), such a thing may not be reciprocal. I have to say, however, that she sure tried to make the whole thing seemingly reciprocal.

Well, i found out the hard way, that it really wasn't reciprocal. Maybe it was for a while, maybe it never was, maybe she did love me but not just enough.

Since lies don't stand forever (nor my naiveness), things began to slowly crumble. "Strange" situations arised while i was with her in her country, and with her friends. She thought she had "intelligently" covered up those situations, and she did, for a while, because i didn't put attention to the small details- details with messages and meanings a love-dazed man would fail to percieve.

I'll make a list;
She said she had stopped stripping on CC, even though i never asked. She moved "down" one category, even though i never asked. But it was all a lie - she still stripped in this more "mild" category (just in 121, mind you ;) ). Why even bother trying to make me feel "exclusive" if it was all a lie, since she never intended to do what she was pretending to do? Go figure.
She was about to "starve", so i sent her some money. A couple of weeks later she was on vacation with her friends... AND she "could not catch me online", so she left for 2 weeks for said vacation without letting me know about it. Bad memory, i guess, since i talked to her the day before she left.
I sent her money through the net, and at one time, her "recieving limit" was already maxed out (obviously from another "exclusive" fan), whom like myself, did not pay for video on CC (per se).
Well, i could go on... But i guess the cherry on the cake is the fact that she is pregnant from who knows what guy. And she hides and moves in a way she thinks i may not notice it when i see her on video. Well, it would be fun to know the excuse she'll put up when i tell her i am going to spend 2 months in her city in the near future :))) Maybe even then she thinks she'll be able to hide it?
I've spent too much time, love, care and patience on her (and i'll not even mention money), so i'll put an end to this whole thing in a timely fashion - i will do it before it is time to send her the next deposit... let's see if she has some dignity, or will still ask for it :)

The funniest thing is, that i know she will struggle her whole life to find a guy who will love her as much as i did, so i wish her a lot of luck, she'll need it. She changed the possibility of a life of leisure, my entire support (plus $, homes and cars LOL), for a couple of lies and sex with a guy who will not even recognize it's his son she's carrying.
Karma is a bitch, isn't it?

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

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no need to be sad peterpan,everybody is face to face the same experiences with women,if she makes a wrong to you,you will say bye-bye and you will find a new one,next one is always best one,but not need to talk about cc girls about relations,always need to be carefull about relations in real life.if we talk here common about all girls,we ll make sad good girls here on cc.once,i bought a ticket for her from her country to my country,and send her money for her way expenses and i waited for her about 5 hours but nobody came,it was veery funny experience for me.

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yes but real

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I see so many inconsistencies in your story...true I wasn't there...but it seems you made bad judgements all the way down the line...chief of which was always trying to fix things by sending money. Money inside and especially outside corrupts these girls to no end. Along with their supposed beauty it gives them a sense of unredemable entitlement that lifts their feet off the ground makes 'em think and act like a crazy person. So as you say...for the most part you have mostly yourself to blame.

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the girl has no responsibility in this matter. You werent too smart Peter and we all know you cant expect the girl to be ethical. You practically forced her to rob you.

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give without any expectations peter. you should have listened to me, the porn buddha. I give never expecting honesty, truth, in fact, any feeling of any kind in return. I know it would be difficult to be as saintly as I am but try. Also, we havent heard the girl's side of this story and knowing how dirty , cruel and nasty men are (except for me) I'm sure she comes out smelling like a rose.

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sorry but that isn't even a passable attempt at absurd humour.don't worry if you keep tryiing & posting one day you might have some success.good luck in your bizzare quest :--)

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

i know i hit the nail on the tisme persona head when you feel the need to respond. thanks porno buddha.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

using your criteria he must have hit the nail on the head about your post as you responded to him.

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Host:1,Member:0 ,after Member:1,HOST:0,after Member:1,Host:1 and again Host:1,Member:0,its stil going on.....................,everybody tells something,lets be honest,lets suppose that we dont send money to them or doing something ,here avarege video bill about 100 dolars for an hour,i wonder that why the guys like to spend money for women?they are right to want from us more and more

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

lots of happy fat men? haha

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

need to try,heheee,who knows?

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

LMFAO!

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

If your going to reply to your own posts be a bit creative,please.

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

you're you're you're you're you're
....it's not "your"
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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

try to learn english then

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

This sounds so much like what happened to me in real life. After she crashed my Trans Am and my trucks, and spent all my money, I think it would have been better to have had it happen with a girl from here. lol at least I would still have my car.

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no, you'd probably end up going someplace like household finance, taking a loan at 40% interest, spending the money on a girl here, not have enough left to make payments on the loan and lose the trans am. still no car

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

heyyyyyyy,why you stopped?

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

no i lost my pinto that way, i think the girl is still in egypt too

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RE: Host: 1, Member: 0 - GAME Over

maybe,she is planing to go to Turkey now!!!!

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i heard thailand, i think now i have to hock my pacer

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members block list

i wish cc would give us an option to block certain host, i have plenty to put on my list for sending me unwanted ccmail and private messages in community chat room and would be extra nice to see the host name not shown on my computer when i read forums, but i guess the technology is not their yet.
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thanks TheCharming, be being a member here for 6 months I didnt know that, i will look into that--thank you again, your a lifesaver

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RE: members block list

you can also change your screen name.

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RE: members block list to old timer

you say its possible to change screen names HOW i dont think it is
please tell me

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RE: members block list to old timer

its not really a change. what i should have said was just add a new screen name. then you can close your first name OR keep both. to add a new screen name just register again. its actually quite easy and if you have any difficulty i am sure help desk can guide you.

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RE: members block list

You get an unwanted e-mail and it bothers you enough to post about it? Wow, talk about being sensitive.

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yes unwanted e-mail,,,and im not sensitive and if you got a problem with it,, get over it

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apparently never enough for hosts.

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RE: members block list

baby host---you can block text chat too--all you got to do is blocked the person once he or she comes in that you dont like

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I have no problem now, thanks for other viewers above telling me what to do, so bye --block list is working now,, thanks to all who help me out

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RE: members block list

You can block all emails from a number of unwanted email sending hosts by placing them in your "black list"...a feature in the ccMail.

Also, while in Community Chat, you can instantly block any host to hour heart''s content by highlighting their name and pressing "block".

All these features have been around for a long time .... so it is not new technology.

Good blocking!!! LOL

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that is only a temporary block which must be repeated each time you enter.

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why not just tell her to stop messaging or sending you email???

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And the Ocar goes to ............

Its oscar night folks can we please have nominations for -
- Best Actress
- Best Supporting Actress ( hmmm )
- Cinematography ( best cam )
- Sound
- Direction
- Production
- Costume and Make-up
- Hair

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RE: And the Ocar goes to ............

Golden Boy? Isn't that one of Jerry's shirts?

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Think about it.... WHO CARES?? The award shows are totally meaningless except for those vain Hollywood types.

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love me love me love me....

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RE: And the Ocar goes to ............

I got all all!!!whooooo!!!!

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I have my Oscar already. But he is fat, fluffy and loves to piss me off big time))

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RE: Can You Feel The LOVE Tonigt??..

You know I can....

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I can't feel anything, I'm wearing a condom :(

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Her show is so great!!!!!

Go and check KARENSTAR out, when she is online you will get a great show.She has such a smoking hot body that it will leave you wanting more everytime.She is always full of energy and is very friendly to talk to which is a bonus.
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RE: technical question for viewers :)

Yes, if the members join the "set alert" option that is. I wouldn't worry too much about the multiple emails tho ;-)

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RE: technical question for viewers :)

each time you log back in another alert e-mail is sent

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RE: technical question for viewers :)

yeah, you might want to limit your pee breaks or go in a bottle or something ... actually, you could incorporate this in your shows and double your 1-2-1 charge. There, I just made you more money ... I think you owe me a hand-job ...

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I used to sign up for that, but it never seemed to work right, plus sometimes the notification went to my regular folder and sometimes to my spam folder and I never open that one I just empty it without reading any.
So pee till the cows come home.

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RE: technical question for viewers :)

Each time you come online and you are in a viewer's Fav. List, the viewer is emailed that you have come online. This applies whether you log off and then log on again 1 or 100 times, the email will be sent to the viewers personal email account 1 or 100 times. So, please, be courteous. It does get a bit annoying to see you have been on and off several times.

One way to take several pee breaks without turning off your vid session is to post a comment or "Warning" in your free text chat. Or, put a handwritten sign in a location that the cam can pick up on it. Then, it is the viewers fault for entering your vid without checking your free text chat and you will not be penalized for it.

However, if you drink a lot of fluids during or off a session, I suggest you use a catheter tude. That will do the trick. LOL Just joking. Take all the pee breaks you require.

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RE: Block list

Block list to me means that the host does not want to see me again. That means that I have been rude or something is wrong. I probably deserved it and I do not visit that host again if they send me a note telling me that I am blocked.

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RE: Block list

As for me, during the time that I work here I didn't block any. I dunno, maybe I am a lucky one, but I met someone who would really deserved to be blocked. Well, on the other hand, even if I don't like very much a visitor I always try to say farewell in such a way which won't give him an advantage to hurt me. But in case if I'd meet someone who doesn't want to understand nice words and would try to upset me in different ways, I for sure would block him.
For example, a blackmailer...or a person who defames my country...or someone who maniacally insistent...those ones deserve to be blocked.

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That must be me lol

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Please do not make me # 3 lol

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Since the 2 years and 1017 video sessions later I've been here I have been blocked only one time. So in the grand scheme of things it does'nt mean a thing.

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RE: Block list

As a member its pretty simple to me , if a girl does not want a member to come back for whatever reason its a good one because each member represents possible income . I think it is essential that hosts have this facility and its not necessarily anything to do with hating anyone etc . As for the members they should respect the hosts decision , move on and leave it at that .
Those members who then change screennames to see girls who blocked them , and i think there are many , should look at how pathetic their behaviour is and call into question their respect for other people .
What always surprises me is that the hosts could ban a hell of a lot more but dont because they tolerate the guys to earn money . Personally if I did what they did I would have a block list as long as my arm and I wouldnt pull any punches telling members what i thought of them ( it would be a short career methinks :-))))) ) .

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You'd be out of job shortly.

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Interesting enough/ Telling the truth has got me block numerous times. Can you explain ??

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RE: Block list

You need to learn tact.

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RE: Block list

are you bragging or just wearing this list like a badge of honor???

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RE: Block list

...if she is doing either. You sound just like one of the individuals who is (deservedly) on her list.

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RE: Block list

how does it feel to be so pure and good and righteous?

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RE: Block list

Well if you are getting replies like that it just proves that you were right to block them in the first place :)

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RE: Block list

Is it true that if a member is blocked from chat he can still go to video? I was blocked by someone but then I went to video and it worked. Ironic. Blocked unless you pay.

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RE: Block list

I do hope that cc reads this thread to see that blocking is frequently used for unintended purposes instead of shielding hosts from being seen by members from their own country. Great way to alienate members. Is this the legacy of cc?

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"blocking is frequently used for unintended purposes instead of shielding hosts from being seen by members from their own country"

Oh come on now do you really think that the hosts have to individually block every single person from their own country ? No they do that as a global option.Therefore I think you will find that these hosts are using the block facility exactly the way cc intended it otherwise it would not be there.

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RE: Block list

I wont prefer them dead, who am i to wish them this, but surely id prefer not to hear from them again ever. I block the ones that are rude, or if i suspect them in recording vids. Too bad we cant block their rude asses from txt chat tho.

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RE: Block list>>to moni

I think its for chathosts forum only< not for general;)

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RE: Block list>>to moni

if you hear a clicking sound on the line during your conversation, it's safe to believe that you're being recorded.

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RE: Block list

i dont block coz to me its against free speech , which i believe in.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

i ask u...how do u define love??

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it exist if u believe in it, and can be fufilled if 2 people believe in it and love each other.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

belive in love?? HAHAHAHAH THAT'S A GOOD ONE!!!! the funniest shit that i've heard today! HAHAHAHAHAHA. i used to believe in it but now love only seems to be a onesided thing.my side. seems when i love someone,i never get the love in return so i would say that right now,no,i do not believe in love. oh,and i'm 41 if you really need to know.

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what is there to love about u, paco? obviously NOTHING! the universe has spoken. LOL

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do you beilive in .............

believe in love and is better than lust - am 50 and the diference is what u seek - short or long tem

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RE: do you beilive in .............

Oh yeah, I also believe in Santa and that all women are faithful. Yeah right!
My acronymn of Love = Loss Of Valuable Energy

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Sure, you can always be happy even without a false love. Actually for me happiness is not a seasonal state of emotion caused by an illusive romance, for me happiness is an attitude. You can always be happy even if you are alone in a deserted island. After many love deceptions I now just aim to find new interests in life that can bring me knowledge and joy instead of hurt and pain.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

Interestingly enough, to me you sound like a more lovable person than someone who believes he/she can only be made happy by the presence of someone else.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

soul always must be hurted , otherwise soul will die. love is suffering. life without love impossible, haven't sense.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

Here in particular...it would be better said..."do you believe in money?"

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cliched i know but....love is a many splendoured thing.there are as many types of love as there are days in the year.we all believe in love or we would not be alive.the most basic love is a love of one's self & from this love all other love grows.a simple philosophy but a hard reality :--)

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yes i believe and i am in early 30s, also love is much more powerful than lust. lust can be an accessory to love.

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Yes I bleve in love, I wrote the song didn't I?
How old am I? Well my ass is 20 years old, my thighs are 60, my cheeks are 30, my tits are 25 years old, my lips (the upper ones, not the ones "down below") are 15 years old, my tumy tuck is 10 years old. One more face lift and my belly button will make me look like I was shot in the throat.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

I see a new marketing op cc...bionic bitch'n category !!

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RE: do you beilive in .............

I definitely believe in love and its power. I am 54

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RE: do you beilive in .............

yes i do believe in love . love is wonderful thing. i am 32.

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RE: do you beilive in .............

i do. and i happy!. 19y.o

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RE: do you beilive in .............

NOOOOOOO
im 22

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RE: do you beilive in .............

yes, I believe in love. It is a powerfull feeling. I'm 51. I even believe in unselfish love

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yep 36

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Not any more! Age - too old to remember.

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The only thing I believe in is moral obligation.

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yes...i do believe in love even it keeps giving me pain....20 y o

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Yes, I believe in love...and I hate it.

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I believe in Love....but it doesn't believe in ME

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Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

that guy shouldnt play footbal anymore!!!!!
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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

It was a terrible injury, but to say Martin Taylor did that on purpose are miles off target. He made honest attempt at getting the ball, unfortunately he was a bit late and caught Eduardo.

PS:I'm not a Birmingham fan.

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

it was a disgrace, he ment to hurt him all through the match he was loooking to "get stuck in" the F.A should come down hard on the his club.......but i am an Aston Villa fan Martin O Neil's claret and blue army

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

"it was a disgrace, he ment to hurt him all through the match he was loooking to "get stuck in""

What you mean "all through the match"? He was dismissed after 2 minutes!!!

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

Indeed...has there ever been a better indication of the lack of objectivity and nous in the average Brit football fan

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

So sorry about my verbs...i was a little drunk...i ment he is a very phyiscal player, has made soem bad tackles ...although he has only ever recived 1 red card before this......also .i am not from the U.K...thus i shall use this as an excuess for my words also

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

Taylor was playing on Eboue level today. Horrible tackle and it is something that should not be in sports. But great results for 10 man Birmingam team today to get 2-2 draw.

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

it's really sad that such emotions and horrible actions can be brought about just by a few men playing a children's game. :(

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

Children's game? I don't understand what you'r saying.
"Of all the unimportant things in life, football is the most important." Quote pope john paul 2nd ;)

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

john paul 2 played quarterback for the chelsea lakers.right? :--)

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RE: Shame on you Martin Taylor!!!!!!!!!!! Birmingan City - Arsenal

I'm a huge football fan but wtf is this post on here for???

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You Choose

Here is you a topic to think about: " What would you do if one of these women here at cc - come and lived with you?
A. Would you still let her perform here
B. Would you join her and become a couple category performer
C. Would you do both above (A and B)
D. Put your own answer here.........................................
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I would love her and cherish her which would mean she would never work here again.

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There was a time when I did have a live-in chick who worked on this and other sites, and in answer to (A) yes, I had no problem with her doing shows from the living room. Actually, it was quiet fun to sit and watch her work ... and the things she used to say about the punters made me the cynical prick that I am today. It was all a complete act (ok, there are probably chicks on here who really are getting off, but can anyone really be sure?). All I can say is that a behind-the-scenes look at this "industry" would be a real eye-opener for most members on here.

In answer to (B), no I never joined her in any shows, which kinda makes (C) not applicable.

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RE: You Choose

has anyone really seen a behind the scenes??

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to answer yeah, i think A Banana answered that already. as for if i had a chat host living with me. I would have no problem with her still working her if she wanted to.

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RE: You Choose

i was referring more to the fact if any former studio owners were about and cared to comment.

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RE: You Choose

from your...meeeeeeeeeeee...signature...love must be all about uuuuuuuuuuu.

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RE: You Choose

I'd give it a shot and let her work, but I bet I would start having a problem after watching her day after day after day getting naked for any guy willing to spend some money.

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RE: You Choose

for the same reason members here like to watch her work:))

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RE: You Choose

You're first option shows you either have little experience with women or absolutely no understanding of them.

A. Would "you still let her" perform here

She's not a pet, she's not a toy, she's not a puppet, she's not a slave and hopefully she's not a child -- you do not "let her" do anything. She does as she chooses to or chooses not to, your approval is not required.

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RE: You Choose

come on, you know what he meant, no need to get hung up on the wording,

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RE: You Choose

I think his choice of words is an important indicator of his attitude to women.

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RE: You Choose

What ?? Members are here for ALL the reason you suggest. You're too sane. Better go visit some other site.

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RE: You Choose

To put in another way:
A. How many girls really like this job? Probably it is just their best alternative to earn some money
B.If you really love a girl, you let her free choice. Of course you need to discuss all and she will take in account what you say. But at the end it is her decision.

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Yes, and women 9 outta 10 times choose money...lol

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RE: You Choose

and what do men 9 outta 10 time choose?

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RE: You Choose

Sex. Which is why this place works so well :P

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RE: You Choose

money too.... but to spend on attracting young beautiful women, not on shoes. :D

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RE: You Choose

this one is really good :D but... I even know men spending money on women and shoes

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D: Help her find a regular job where she didn't have to deal with jerks & liars all day long

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RE: You Choose

Well that's politics ruled out then :P

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RE: which is more addictive?

LOL,good one,pity I'm more a prodder,than a pusher.

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RE: which is more addictive?EASY....

That is the most American-sounding answer possible! Before you start the hate mail coming my way, I am American and Thats why I say that--for TOO MANY people in the USA, money is their god and will sell, rent or lease their souls for it.

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so many host and so little time...

now the sheer number of host online has increased enormously...in my view at least...delutes the site some how...like to much candy under the counter and you get so tired with the choices that you end up not picking anyone.
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RE: so many host and so little time...

I used to view the hosts pictures without regard to cost and add them to my favorites list. Then I would go through them at my leisure and delete some based on cost and after looking at the pictures more closely. However with the increase in hosts came an inexplicable (in economic and marketing terms) increase in prices. So now I open up the video window first rather than picture archive. There are dozens of hosts I would love to do a video with but at 1.50 or more a minute in open that is not going to happen. Hopefully the prices will adjust a bit. I have seen some of the newer hosts lower their prices a bit. I guess sitting staring at an empty computer screen wore them down.

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RE: so many host and so little time...

maybe the fact that there are so many hosts now is reason why price isn't held in check ....it takes long enough just to wait for the who's online page to load....taking even more time to comparison shop isn't something i think most members have patence for....i can say that i don't have that kind of patience anyway.

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RE: so many host and so little time...

Maybe thats an idea for CC...have a price-range breakdown. It would save alot of time and is much more customer-friendly

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RE: so many host and so little time...

Welllllllll.... different people like varied things. It'd be a shame if you go on a site and your kink isn't catered to.

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re white knights

lots of them here.
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more ants than flies too,just flies make more noise.

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lmao & where do flies gather? :--)

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Where did the files go?=))=))=))

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the flies flew to......ohh who cares as long as they aren't buzzing around here :--)

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the more you mention them, the more your press your luck, i think ;-)

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RE: re white knights

excellent point.thanks.(going to sit in the corner & keeping his fool mouth shut) :--)

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spicybrunette

i recommend this girl! beautiful smile...great body...perfect boobs. Go have a look. you won't be diappointed !

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Few girls here deserve this term: Voluptuous. Classically so. Not my cup of tea but I am glad you are both happy.

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I didn't find her either, although I was curious :))

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RE: spicybrunette

sorry everyone... i didn't type her name correctly. Its spicybrunete. sorry for the error. she really is a beautiful and fun girl.

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RE: spicybrunette

sorry everyone. I mispelled the beautiful models name. Her name is spicybrunete. sorry for the mistake. Please enjoy!!

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RE: spicybrunette

Blame Spell-check for that typo. I would

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prettysylvia

At last a new girl who smiles and listens well worth a visit. Ignore the stars really she is good value.
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Not my cup of tea but I am glad you both are happy.

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i bet springfield misses you lots. :)

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

she called me slut ( russian language) in community chat just because i didnt paid attention for her. does it mean inteligent?

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Would be interesting to read Gortensia's post:P:P:P

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Yes yes)) "U probably missunderstood my position as my English isnt very good, but ill try my best to explain")))

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

Unless she was doing something sexual with the animal, let it go! Christ!!

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hmmm, I have an important question which follows on from that ... does the fact that you took pains to point out that Gortensia doesn't squirt in the first minute mean that there are chicks that actually DO ... ??

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...did the animal squirt too?

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Gortensia has always been polite to me and paid attention to me. Yes, the cat did come into the video one time, but it did not distract her from me. (The cat was even fun to watch) I will probably visit her again sometime.

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

I agree with Ori - as usual. Vera (Gortensia) is a wonderful young woman. Cheers to you both...

Mike

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

welcome back mike:)

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....results

and 1 sitting on fence undecided, as don't know her or him

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....u sure?

not 69?
:)

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

she is a very rude girl i would rather have needles pushed into my eyes than see her again.

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

but finding someone who could stomach the sight of you for long enough to do it,would be the problem.

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

Ah ha! How about if the needle pusher put a few in his/her eyes 1st then he/she wouldn't have to "stomach the sight of him".....mmmm?

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

wow,you are an ideas man,it could work.

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

i agree

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RE: TO DEAN FROM VIEWERS FORUM.....

of course being rude is ok. actually forgot there are only rude members?

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Censorship

On Feb 20th a member posting under the name "americandad," posted a message titled, "i would like to know what to do to create a studio." A thread of more than a dozen messages ensued, including one by "cynical," who made some observations about the relative beauty, charm, intelligence, etc. of the hosts here vs. American women. A lively and civil discussion followed. Responses came from no less than five people, hosts and guests alike.

I am now taken aback that some functionary at CC has apparently seen fit to delete "cynical's" message and all those who responded either directly or indirectly. No one took offense, nor, if I may speak for him, did "cynical" intend any personal offense to anyone. Personally I disagreed with his observation, but I defend his right to express it, indeed welcome it, and find no justification for this arbitrary censorship. This decision gives lie to CC's published view about the Forum and suggests they have stooped to the role of petty thought police.

cc: CC Admin
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Wrong...

As a matter of fact, I took great offense at that posting.
As a matter of fact, I felt it grossly violated CC's behaviour policy.
As a matter of fact, I asked them to remove that message for both those reasons and they kindly did so.

And now, I think you owe the fine folks who run this splendid site a very earnest apology.

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Au Contraire

Dear Easily Offended,

You are either a subtle ironist or dead earnest in your claim to being offended. Assuming the latter, I must first say, I believe you are preaching to the choir in my case because, if you read my responses to "cynical's" post, you may recall that I disagreed with his claims and took issue with him nearly point by point. His gratuitous assertions were so general and, by his own admission, designed in his words, "to stir the pot,” (a la Rush Limbaugh), not an attempt to demonstrate the truth of his claims.

My response was to make a reasoned argument in the General Forum to demonstrate that his claims were false. You---"Easily Offended"---took offense, but instead of making your own argument, you managed to persuade CC to censor the reasoned exchanges among other contributing members because your moral sensibilities were offended. And my opinion is that CC erred in allowing your sentiments alone to trump the right of others of us who would like to engage in reasoned arguments. That said, I believe it is you who owe the Forum members an apology for presuming to be a self-appointed arbiter of what can and not be posted here. And shame on CC for acquiescing to your request.

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RE: Au Contraire

Excuse me, but when has "stirring the pot" ever resulted in an healthy exchange of reasoned ideas, culminating in the "pot stirrer" singing Kumbaya with his "logical" shaming critics after being forced to admit just how very, very wrong he really was?
Point out just ONE example of that ever having happened here. Do that and I promise to feel really, really bad for asking for the removal of the words of a person who admitted only having posted those very words to offend others in the first place.
Do that and I'll gladly bow low and give you the most heart-feltist, super-sincerliest apology off all time.

Now kindly acknowledge my intellectual might and beg me to not thrash your flimsy reasoning any further.

Cordially,

Easily Offended

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RE: Au Contraire

my opinion is you are using hypocrisy,to try to prove a point,stir the pot or both of the prior assumptions.have fun with it.

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RE: Au Contraire

no you're being easily offended again,it is not a display of intellectual might better used at the mensa forum

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Pot Stirrers & Censorship

Easily Offended,

I agree, “pot stirrers” rarely throw down the gauntlet with view to engaging in a reasoned argument with truth being the ultimate goal. It is rather a contest, a spectator sport of sorts. A controversial subject or idea is thrown out, around which two sides engage in an exercise of disputation, nominally to debate a political event or social policy. (An extreme example would be media clowns like Limbaugh & O’Reilly, who specialize in this; their guests are invariably straw men). I think most people understand this and can elect to respond or to ignore such people. Some would argue that anyone who responds is a chump for taking the bait, that ludicrous assertions should not even be dignified with a response and that any effort to refute a claim with a reasoned argument is futile and a waste of time and energy. However, it does not mean that anyone who chooses to respond is, by your insulting assessment, a “ ‘logical’ shaming [sic] critic” whose underlying aim is to “force” the offending party to “admit just how very, very wrong he really was.”

I would also add that the decision to respond depends on what claim is being made. For example, I would not dignify a Holocaust denier with a response any more than I would respond to a member of the Flat Earth Society. “Cynical’s” comments were intended to provoke others to respond (and in my opinion, not personally offend any individual member). Most people disagreed with his claims, which were insupportable generalizations, but the issues he raised about the roles of men and women throughout history and how these roles have changed are legitimate subjects for debate and hardly extreme. He also made claims about the comparative beauty, charm and intelligence of CC’s hosts vs. American women. His remarks brought comments about the nature of the work that hosts do and to what extent economic necessity featured in their decision to take such employment.

As regards the content of “cynical’s” now expunged comments, nearly every respondent took issue with his assertions and expressed their opinions and objections openly. You on the other hand decided that “cynical’s” trite polemic should not have been posted in the first place (even though CC thought otherwise). You have every right not to dignify “cynical’s” comments with a reply and you have every right to voice your complaint to CC. But you accomplished your aim by inflating the gravity and intention of his post and distorting his admission of liking to “stir the pot” on occasion, as a basis for painting the man as “a person who admitted only having posted those very words to offend others in the first place.” Oh really? Where did he make this frank “admission” of his desire to “offend others?” To “stir the pot” is no doubt designed to rile others, but your claim that he “…use[d] this forum for the "sole" [my quotes], expressed objective of upsetting/offending many others” is not a conclusion one can fairly draw from his words, for it assumes you have some direct knowledge of his intention(s) (and the "underlying aims" of his critics) here in the Forum, that he has but one and that it is malevolent. That may be your take on it, but I think you are reading something into his position (and his "sham critics") that you cannot demonstrate is there.

I’m sure you were not alone in taking offense to “cynical’s” comments. I simply feel your thoughts and objections to “cynical” would have been best aired here rather than going to CC Admin and asking them to excise his words and those who responded to him. I share your concern that people communicate in a respectful manner. But why not join in the discussion rather than observing it from the outside as a self-appointed judge of what should or should not be allowed to be said?


I appreciate your objection to offensive speech and your reminder of CC’s published behavior policy. However, I trust you won’t mind if I take exception when you confidently claim,” I'm sure you'll agree that such an abuse of this forum constitutes a flagrant violation of that behavior policy.” The fact that CC posted “cynical’s” message in the first place would suggest what you describe as a “flagrant” violation was not unambiguously so. A violation? Perhaps. But your characterization of it as “flagrant” is unsupported by the evidence. In your zeal to root out and censor someone whose speech offended you, you have resorted to distortions and mischaracterizations. I commend you for coming forth and identifying yourself as the party who filed the complaint to CC, but the argument you make to justify your action, while understandable, is not finally persuasive and loses further weight by your ad hominem attacks on your critics as a bunch of gullible, naïve “sham critics” who failed to see the alleged injurious effects “cynical’s” words had on the Forum. For one so “easily offended,” I thought you would have been more sensitive before giving offense yourself.


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RE: Wrong...

Excuse me, but if you are getting so easily offended each time when people are saying their opinions (which can be equally either a truth or they could be mistaken),..I think it is your problem but not the people's, and the best thing in this case is to learn how to accept different points of view and how to make your own. Even the style of your post shows that you are still very far from understanding how to deal with different folks and what is FORUM is all about. You made many people here to feel that their opinions is nothing but only yours is important. So, who to whom owes apology?

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RE: Wrong...

I'm sorry to disapoint you, but I am not easily offended by just any opinion per se. What offended me in this specific matter is the very idea that a person would use this forum for the sole, expressed objective of upsetting/offending many others.
If you care to kindly take a look at the behaviour policy that governs this site, a policy that each and every person here has agreed to abide by to become a part of this community, I'm sure you'll agree that such an abuse of this forum constitutes a flagrant violation of that behavior policy.
Personally, being the forgiving and superior being that I am, I happen to humbly count myself as exceptionally kind for only having asked that the offending words be removed and not having requested the offending member have his membership revoked.

And now, for assuming so much of me and attacking me ONLY for your cynical, hyper-prejudicial imaginings, I kindly request that you apologise to me at your earliest convenience.

Hugs and kisses,

Easily Offended

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RE: Wrong...

read above.

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RE: Censorship

not the only thread removed. recently part of chickory thread remove and another by wanda22. hard to understand censorship criteria coz i seen political stuff and anti us stuff remain. seems those are more bad?

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RE: Censorship

If a message makes to the forum in the first place, it's not the censor employed by CamContacts that's deciding to take them down; someone who either spends money here or earns money here has complained and CamContacts is responding to that complaint.
I don't know why that's so difficult for you people to understand.
"thought police" .... Jesus, what melodrama.

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RE: Censorship

Joe, Okay, your point is well taken, that “if a message makes it to the Forum in the first place” there was, by definition, no censorship. But if CC is responding to a member's complaint and deletes, post-facto, an already posted message, that is a kind of censorship, driven more by fear of lost revenue from paying customers---‘money talks’after all--- than moral principles and not because they found a message unworthy of posting. What’s more, I know from personal experience CC sometimes does this of its own accord; it is not always a consequence of a complaint. And hot political issues and religion are often the first posts to be excised. Your point is not “so difficult to understand.” It’s just not the only reason messages are deleted or not posted in the first place. In fact, I had to submit this very post—“Censorship”--- a second time, for it was not posted yesterday. Perhaps today's CC reviewer was a more discerning mind.

It seems to me CC is under no obligation to oblige every complaint by deleting the opinions of others as long as these opinions are not malevolent, overtly distasteful or outright hate speech. (Ironically, the not infrequent exchange of gratuitous adolescent insults among some members rarely gets deleted, whereas this did!) It seems to me the purpose of an Open Forum---for which CC deserves kudos---is to allow people to engage in reasoned arguments in a civil way, even if they take radically different views. In short, let members post their arguments where we can all participate and judge these arguments on their merits.

Finally, let me concede your point that my use of “thought police” was, in this context, a bit hyperbolic, but your characterization of it as “melodramatic” suggests a failure to appreciate---even in this small arena---the implications of prescribing and proscribing speech, rather than enjoying the freedom thereof.

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RE: Censorship

thread has been removed in selected areas...cynical comment is no longer there in my area...and we'll see if this comment makes it. ;)

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RE: Censorship

I got many messages censored, not at all because they were offensive to anyone but because contents was not found nice by CC. For instance one about "freedom of speech", which is the title of the Forum page. Some probabilitstic calculations about some recent game on CC. So just don't expect too much if you are not promoting a host or talking about sunny weather!

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RE: Censorship

Agreed. There is a definite agenda, and point of view by the people deciding on what actually gets "published".

I have had many posts censored, no profanity, no attack against others, purely on political content. Let's see if this sees the light of day...but I doubt it??

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RE: Censorship

this is not a political forum. duh. there are political forums at other sites.

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RE: Censorship

Male, You are right. This is not a "political forum" in the formal sense, but all human relationships, from the simple (one human being to another) to the complex (one State or Nation to another) contain an element of the political. And while CC exercises a reasonable right to avoid such conflicts by disallowing posts with content (I am thinking here of current and long standing animosities among nations, different religious and ethnic groups, etc.) that is unambiguously designed to be hurtful to other members and/or hosts, it seems to me there is room for an exchange of ideas--even if these ideas are highly charged--provided we do not allow our differences to undermine our regard for each other’s humanity.


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RE: Censorship

seems the way to get past the censorship is to throw down the gauntlet,challenge the cc censors,lol.

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RE: Censorship ~ Melomane2

Well I am kinda surprised that even this thread managed to get started as I have to say from my own personal point of view I have had more posts pulled or prevented in the last 6 months that I have had in the previous 5 years. And I have posted an AWFUL LOT over the last 5 years.

The was a time when forum moderation was a passive concern and that the forum users were trusted to police themselves and to report any unacceptable behaviour, however it does seem there has been a markedly more pro-active stance that seem to be just a touch too over zealous on certain counts.

Considering that these forums have been around and quite functional for more years than the current owners of CC have been in charge one is left to posit the proverb "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

I for one would find CC to be destroying the best part of itself by alienating the community and constantly throttling it's free expression.

It has gotten so bad I even have to make copies of my post to either re-edit with the censors approval, or re-submit when a post conveniently get forgotten to be posted.

I am toying with the idea of sending out a news letter to all the people who appreciate my thoughts and would like to read them unedited. Sounds a be extreme to me but I too feel there is something that need s to be addressed.

"Freedom of speech, but no spam please"

Does seem to sound a little hollow these days.

TNTHACCATCCANIL

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RE: Censorship ~ Melomane2

congrat, MissCBT! Apparently you are a good ambassador of naked truth :)

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RE: Censorship ~ Melomane2

very rarely agree with you TNT except for now. i know of one forum that is totally uncensored but not here. re your news letter, as you are 100% biased against members, i think its not a good idea.

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RE: Censorship ~ Melomane2

While I sympathetic I have often been censored myself and would bet at a greater rate than you. Some subjects are strictly taboo. I believe CC would benefit from more openess. CC is still the best of its kind but lately has become less responsive to its members. I recall when CC used to respond to members questions in these forums. Rarely does that happen anymore with the exception of technical issues which they respond to quickly. I realize CC is a business and that much of which goes on behind the scenes they have good reasons for. If they would at least resond to some member requests if only to say "such and such" is not possible or "we are considering". Instead, we are frequently left in a vacuum of information whereas there is far more responsiveness to requests from hosts IMO. CC has produced many great innovations like 121 but reading these forums, one gets the impression that what once was a good idea is being misused by many. Yet we have no information from CC in this area.

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RE: Censorship

This whole thread makes me uncomfortable....maybe I should ask CC to remove it.....lol

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RE: Censorship

OK, OK...so my misgivings, misplaced? We shall see!

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RE: Censorship

you can ask them to remove whatever you want,as long as you DON'T remove your clothes,again!!! lol

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Brave New World

bbko, Lol! No need to call CC. The State will likely take care of this. In most cases it has the necessary designs in place to insure you feel nothing that makes you feel uncomfortable. Above all, do not think! Take your Soma* and call me in the morning.

* 'Ask your doctor if Soma is right for you.' Side effects may include an artificially induced sense of well being and occasional uneasiness if you associate with anyone or read anything that might cause you to doubt the essential soundness of your beliefs. This may result in a temporary loss of happiness. Should this last for more than three days, call your doctor. If you have never taken Soma call 1-800-FREEDOM and ask a free trial offer.






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haha

well its time to say its been a blast and all, i met a few that was kind and met a few that was not, and to those that was not all i can say get over your problems and wish you the best, someday you will meet your dream maker as for my dream i will try to be a good father and stay out of trouble. I know i aim high so if you think you can do better go for it---here is my joke for you: what has red,blue,green,orange, black,purple,yellow, and brown all on one tiny section of the body?
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RE: haha

ewwwwwwwwwww we dont wanna look up ur ass!!!! LOOOOOOOL

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RE: haha

some dirty ass he has :x

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RE: haha

i want to look up his ass

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RE: haha

i take that as a compliment--thanks

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Ego

Last night I was chatting to a host , someone had paid her a compliment and her head had got so big it barely fitted on my screen :-)))) So as some mischief I would like suggestions for hosts with Olympic Gold Medal Winning Egos ......... to the hosts , we all know members egos are bigger shame it isnt matched in the trouser department :-)))blah blah , so we keep this to hosts only .
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RE: Ego

Well someone told her she has ' Nice ears ' ....... hmmm , is that a compliment you look for btw ? and the problem for me was that because her head was so big I couldnt admire any other part of her :-)))

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RE: Ego

Oh dear, shame on you Zulu, I award you shit-stirrer of the month award. Just as forums were becoming nice. You know exactly what's going to happen now......same old, same old.......... Hope I'm wrong but.....:-(

Remember, it's nice to be nice

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RE: Ego

Hmmm , the post is tongue in cheek and mischevious with a wink . Your comment is a bit wet Nick , you read and post to the forums too much and take it all too seriously . I have had a good teacher who has helped me with being a little more evil and a little less nice and I tell you its fun !! :P besides I wasnt looking for reference to the usual host egos ........ some new ones would be nice

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RE: Ego

Huh huh :D roosters fight hihihihi.Im gonna sit comfy on my couch and watch it, savouring delicious PINK champagne and some NUTS ;).Goooo Zuluuuuu ( throwing my legs up in the air and agitating histerically some cheerleading pompoms) :)

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RE: Ego

Can i join u?:*:*)))))))

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RE: Ego

I want to watch

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RE: Ego

Wishes are for free, dream on :)

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RE: Ego

Yess ofcourse you can, you're welcome.Take a sit and a cup of champagne pls, and lets make some bets :)

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RE: Ego

Deal(K)(K)

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RE: Ego

ok where do i buy tickets for that?

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RE: Ego

Girls , Girls , Girls !! Calm down :))))) , although Nicky's comments are a bit wet doesnt mean he is not a bad guy and does not mean I am going to get out my proud rooster for you to enjoy although I know you are desperate to see him . As comfort to this disappointment I will show you both some of my sexy dance moves .... provided you ask nicely :-))) and in person ( if you know who i am ) , but be warned my dance moves carry a health warning for women :)))))

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RE: Ego

health warning= stomach churning?

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RE: Ego

calm down, you take offence too easily - not that serious either! :-) and thanks for advising me of post quotas ;-)) lol

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SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

The new supermarket near my house has an automatic water mister to keep
produce fresh. Just before it goes on, you hear the sound of thunder and
the smell of fresh rain.

When you approach the milk cases, you hear cows mooing and witness the
scent of fresh hay.

When you approach the egg case, you hear hens cluck and cackle and the air
is filled with the pleasing aroma of bacon and eggs frying.

The veggie department features the sound of a gentle breeze and the smell
of fresh buttered corn.

I don't buy toilet paper there any more...
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RE: SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

good one slutp, but got to ask what happens around the fish section.......

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RE: SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

you get eaten by a fucking shark, what do you think

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RE: SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

you get a fish smell

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RE: SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

No, you think you are in CC
Fishy whew

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you have blind men saying hello ladies

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Do they sell condoms? Oh no! its Kenneth Williams (for Brits only I guess)

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RE: SUPERMARKET SURROUND SOUND

forget the fish section, I'm heading to the tampon isle...btw when is CC going to come out with "smell-o-vision"?

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