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RE: DO u ever go to ur fav host prerecorded video?
No I usually use it to quickly see hosts I have never visited but may like to based on their profile pics just to see if they look the same. For me the price should be $1 or less.
RE: DO u ever go to ur fav host prerecorded video?
i agree, since it is not live $1. AND also put some kind of small detail about video, at least tell if it is nude or not etc.
RE: DO u ever go to ur fav host prerecorded video?
I think each host should have a 60 second free video clip. But then I said that before...
RE: DO u ever go to ur fav host prerecorded video?
Why 60 seconds? If you just want a teaser introduction 30 seconds would be more than long enough. Some guys can come in less than a minute!
RE: DO u ever go to ur fav host prerecorded video?
Nope. I like live interaction. That's why I'm here.
Like INYF, the only time I have used Pre-recorded Video is when I want to check out a host after liking her pics. If I want X-rated viewing, I can always get X-rated vids for free at certain other sites.
I like chatting with the host before, during, and after play (if I ever get to that point with her)
Like INYF, the only time I have used Pre-recorded Video is when I want to check out a host after liking her pics. If I want X-rated viewing, I can always get X-rated vids for free at certain other sites.
I like chatting with the host before, during, and after play (if I ever get to that point with her)
Password Sessions: The Best Way
1. Host and member agree on price. Usually, this will be the open price, but whatever the price will be, make sure the host and member agree.
2. Figure out what the open price should be to make the 121 price become the agreed upon price. The host will need to know her percentage increase from open to 121, and, to make the math easier, she can change the percent for purposes of the password. This step could take a few minutes, but with a calculator, it isn't that difficult and will cause less problems as will be seen in a minute.
3. Give member the password.
4. Log out of session, set the password, and set the open price and percentage increase so that the 121 price will be the agreed upon price.
5. The host will then log back in. The member needs to be careful and keep refreshing to be able to log into her session with the password, choosing the 121 price, the moment she returns online. If the host is in his favorites list, he can just keep refreshing the favorites page until she appears online.
6. The member is now in 121 with a password.
Why do it this way? Simple: nobody can see the price of a session if the member is in 121 even if the session is password protected. That is the key. The member just needs to be fast when he logs in and the host must be fast to log out of her session after the member leaves.
It could be a little annoying to figure out how to calculate the 121 price to make it the agreed upon price, but it is worth it to the host. Usually nobody will know what the member is paying so nobody will have anything to complain about as long as the member is fast when he enters 121 video and the host is fast to close her session at the end of the video session with the member.
Most of the time, hosts are probably giving passwords to regulars so they will be able to cooperate well together and only need to do the math one time. Plus, the member will be someone the host can trust to enter video quickly and to choose 121 instead of open. If the member chooses open, that was not the agreed upon price so the host can intentionally disconnect the member and explain to CC why she did this. I am confident that they will accept such an explanation and not penalize the host in any way.
As long as people have functioning brains and a calculator (start-->programs--->accessories---->caculator on Windows), this method works very well, protects the hosts privacy, and will keep other members from complaining. It is a little more difficult than just giving a password and having the member choose open, but it will cause the host a lot fewer problems when other members cannot see the password price.
2. Figure out what the open price should be to make the 121 price become the agreed upon price. The host will need to know her percentage increase from open to 121, and, to make the math easier, she can change the percent for purposes of the password. This step could take a few minutes, but with a calculator, it isn't that difficult and will cause less problems as will be seen in a minute.
3. Give member the password.
4. Log out of session, set the password, and set the open price and percentage increase so that the 121 price will be the agreed upon price.
5. The host will then log back in. The member needs to be careful and keep refreshing to be able to log into her session with the password, choosing the 121 price, the moment she returns online. If the host is in his favorites list, he can just keep refreshing the favorites page until she appears online.
6. The member is now in 121 with a password.
Why do it this way? Simple: nobody can see the price of a session if the member is in 121 even if the session is password protected. That is the key. The member just needs to be fast when he logs in and the host must be fast to log out of her session after the member leaves.
It could be a little annoying to figure out how to calculate the 121 price to make it the agreed upon price, but it is worth it to the host. Usually nobody will know what the member is paying so nobody will have anything to complain about as long as the member is fast when he enters 121 video and the host is fast to close her session at the end of the video session with the member.
Most of the time, hosts are probably giving passwords to regulars so they will be able to cooperate well together and only need to do the math one time. Plus, the member will be someone the host can trust to enter video quickly and to choose 121 instead of open. If the member chooses open, that was not the agreed upon price so the host can intentionally disconnect the member and explain to CC why she did this. I am confident that they will accept such an explanation and not penalize the host in any way.
As long as people have functioning brains and a calculator (start-->programs--->accessories---->caculator on Windows), this method works very well, protects the hosts privacy, and will keep other members from complaining. It is a little more difficult than just giving a password and having the member choose open, but it will cause the host a lot fewer problems when other members cannot see the password price.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Wtf...how is it some people can make having fun, something so innately simple to achieve with the minimum fuss, into an issue somewhat more intractable than world peace!
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Thanks for the info on how to make a simple process complicated.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
All I was trying to do was to show people how to avoid the problem that giving passwords can cause hosts and giving them a way to hide their price. It is NOT all that complicated. Hosts do the EXACT same thing when they set passwords and the members enter open. I added just another step so that the member could go 121 and stop the host from having any problems. WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH THAT???
For someone like INYF who has said he usually goes 121, this might seem like a big complicated mess. But, once again, it isn't that difficult for people with FUNCTIONING BRAINS! And I was not trying to be anyone's "mom" or tell anyone what to do. I was simply giving my opinion about what the best way was to handle things.
And to "Host", you're welcome. To the rest of you, lose your f*cking attitude that you are superior to everyone else. You CLEARLY ARE NOT!!!
For someone like INYF who has said he usually goes 121, this might seem like a big complicated mess. But, once again, it isn't that difficult for people with FUNCTIONING BRAINS! And I was not trying to be anyone's "mom" or tell anyone what to do. I was simply giving my opinion about what the best way was to handle things.
And to "Host", you're welcome. To the rest of you, lose your f*cking attitude that you are superior to everyone else. You CLEARLY ARE NOT!!!
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
The only reason I used the term "functioning brains" in the first post was that I knew that the whiners would come out and complain it was too complicated. It is not that I think I am better than anyone... well, except for idiots. Many hosts here study accounting and economics, as well as other difficult areas of study, so I am pretty sure that they won't have a problem with simple math.
For those that are math-impaired, just make the percent increase 100% and set the open price at 1/2 of the desired 121 price. Unfortunately, this is not a perfect solution due to category minimums, but it will work a lot of the time.
Hosts choose their open and 121 price all of the time and base the 121 price upon percentage increase. They are use to this. NONE of this is all that difficult. It would be nice if they could just choose a 121 price instead of using percentages or if CC would hide the price whenever a host used a password, but unfortunatey, things don't work that way at this time. Nevertheless, NOTHING I suggested is all that complicated for most people, and hosts work with these percentages all of the time when setting their prices.
For those that are math-impaired, just make the percent increase 100% and set the open price at 1/2 of the desired 121 price. Unfortunately, this is not a perfect solution due to category minimums, but it will work a lot of the time.
Hosts choose their open and 121 price all of the time and base the 121 price upon percentage increase. They are use to this. NONE of this is all that difficult. It would be nice if they could just choose a 121 price instead of using percentages or if CC would hide the price whenever a host used a password, but unfortunatey, things don't work that way at this time. Nevertheless, NOTHING I suggested is all that complicated for most people, and hosts work with these percentages all of the time when setting their prices.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
lmao... It is pretty amazing how people that say they can't do math suddenly become experts when you put a $ sign in front of the numbers.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
I think even Host was being sarcastic with you, but that might be just how I read it.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
I considered that but hoped for the best. Reading it again, it would seem you're probably right, and if so, I doubt she would have enough traffic to worry about anyone wanting a password given her attitude.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Where is that any different from just lowering the 121 price in the first place? Unless its a free session, i will never understand the point of password protected sessions. In fact, if i ever found out that a regular of mine is doing that for other members but ignoring me, i think i would just stop seeing them.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
It is the same thing as lowering the 121 price. Unfortunately, CC makes it so that the 121 price is based on a percentage increase of the open price. Hosts do not directly choose the 121 price.
For example, when you see a host with a price of open $1,00 and 121 $1,50, she never enters $1,50 as the 121 price. Rather, she sets her open price at $1.00 and puts 50% as the percent increase for 121 so that the 121 price ends up as $1,50.
As for the reason of adding a password, it is to prevent others from entering open or 121 at the lower price. And of course as for the reason for having the member go 121 with the lower price, you answered that... It causes resentment with other members so my suggestion allows the host to hide her price from others. The member and host just need to act fast so others cannot see the lower price.
For example, when you see a host with a price of open $1,00 and 121 $1,50, she never enters $1,50 as the 121 price. Rather, she sets her open price at $1.00 and puts 50% as the percent increase for 121 so that the 121 price ends up as $1,50.
As for the reason of adding a password, it is to prevent others from entering open or 121 at the lower price. And of course as for the reason for having the member go 121 with the lower price, you answered that... It causes resentment with other members so my suggestion allows the host to hide her price from others. The member and host just need to act fast so others cannot see the lower price.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Once the member is in 121 with the password, nobody will know that the host gave him a password. I am pretty sure that others just see the usual message that the "chathost is currently in a one to one session". So again, as long as people act quickly, nobody but the host and member will know what is going on.
It isn't a perfect solution since someone may happen to click video and see the new prices just before the member enters, but it is the best solution in my opinion given how things work on CC and the resentment that a member that did not receive the lower price may feel.
And thank you as well for not having an attitude. I was just trying to help. At least you and "Host" understood that.
It isn't a perfect solution since someone may happen to click video and see the new prices just before the member enters, but it is the best solution in my opinion given how things work on CC and the resentment that a member that did not receive the lower price may feel.
And thank you as well for not having an attitude. I was just trying to help. At least you and "Host" understood that.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
When a host is in a password protected session you see the password box when you click on the go to video button. Which makes sense as she may have given her password to numerous members.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
I mean when she is in 121. Yes, you see it in open, but I don't believe that you ever see it if she is in 121 so nobody would know that the member was paying a lower price and had gotten a password to ensure that nobody else could enter at that lower price. I am pretty sure, as I said, that the notification to other members is the same when the member is in 121 with or without a password which is good so it eliminates 1) the complaint that the member paid a lower price and 2) that he got a password.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
You could be right as I am certainly no expert on password protected videos as no host have ever liked me enough to ever offer me one :P
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Damn. Forgot one thing. You can't enter text chat when there is a password so a member will know even if the member with the password goes 121. Still, the host could say she didn't change the price and explain that the member had an appointment with her or something like that so she made a password even if this isn't really the truth. I rather not encourage hosts to lie, but in this case, I don't think it is a big deal.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
In both options they have to be quick, the only difference is that in the 121 one some other member can get in first. I would still be pissed if i saw that though, and its not that uncommon.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Well, nothing is perfect the way CC sets it up. I was just pointing out what I think is the best option in light of everything. And with a password, only the intended member could enter 121 at the lower price.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
The people who get pissed off when they see a host in a password session are exactly the ones who will probably never get invited to join. They are the ones who simply see the hosts as dolls to help them get off.
In my experience the common reasons for a password session are.
i) The member has spent a lot of money with the host.
ii) There was some sort of problem with a previous video session and the host wants to make it up to the member. - normally because he did not throw his toys out of the pram and complain to CC.
iii) Members helped the host a lot during a contest
iv) The host is testing a new cam, computer or something
v) There is genuine friendship between the host and member. The host may just be in her ordinary house clothes, not in the mood to go on line and put herself at the beck and call of all members but is happy to chat with someone who is a friend as well as a customer.
In my experience the common reasons for a password session are.
i) The member has spent a lot of money with the host.
ii) There was some sort of problem with a previous video session and the host wants to make it up to the member. - normally because he did not throw his toys out of the pram and complain to CC.
iii) Members helped the host a lot during a contest
iv) The host is testing a new cam, computer or something
v) There is genuine friendship between the host and member. The host may just be in her ordinary house clothes, not in the mood to go on line and put herself at the beck and call of all members but is happy to chat with someone who is a friend as well as a customer.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
And of course all of these extra hassle could be done away with if CC provides a button for hosts to accept incoming members to their chat rooms.
Giving the host the option if she does or does not want extra visitors...
Also a discount button, so when the member she wants is in 'chat' with her, she has the option to press a button for a "SPECIAL" price, this includes all minutes spent in chat for that single session both before she pressed the button, and also for the rest of the session..... lol, two simple magic buttons ;) ;)
NO extra hassle, no logging in / logging out, no maths, no changing things for the other members, no passwords, no threads in forums about host behaviour... ;) just total control for her....
Giving the host the option if she does or does not want extra visitors...
Also a discount button, so when the member she wants is in 'chat' with her, she has the option to press a button for a "SPECIAL" price, this includes all minutes spent in chat for that single session both before she pressed the button, and also for the rest of the session..... lol, two simple magic buttons ;) ;)
NO extra hassle, no logging in / logging out, no maths, no changing things for the other members, no passwords, no threads in forums about host behaviour... ;) just total control for her....
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
u know some hosts will be pressing that " special price" button very fast .
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
everybody should know the best way is a free password protected session (2-4 hours )
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
I have a bad headache after reading this thread. Long Term Member lists some good points. I take exception what he said in the first paragraph. "They are the ones who simply see the hosts as dolls to help them get off."
We duh, that is why we are all here.
We duh, that is why we are all here.
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
Seriously some of you guys just need to have some fun and stop worrying about what everyone else is up to!
There are so many reasons why girls may have a password protected session and frankly, unless you're a studio owner and she works for you, it's none of your business. She's here to make money and it's up to her how she promotes herself.
My gf is a host here and if she's having cam problems or connection speed issues she'll setup a free password protected session for me to enter and check if her feed looks OK.
The second she opens the session she receives loads of often very rude CCmail messages from guys demanding the password and complaining that they never get a free session. Sometimes calling her rather nasty names for giving a guy other than them 'special attention'. Do you really want to see a really slow, crappy looking camera and a girl in pyjamas looking at her computer angrily while we try to fix the problem?
Guys, just kick back and have some. You never know, if you relax a little, be nice to the girls, and stop constantly worrying that someone else is getting a better deal than you, you might actually be offered a password session!
There are so many reasons why girls may have a password protected session and frankly, unless you're a studio owner and she works for you, it's none of your business. She's here to make money and it's up to her how she promotes herself.
My gf is a host here and if she's having cam problems or connection speed issues she'll setup a free password protected session for me to enter and check if her feed looks OK.
The second she opens the session she receives loads of often very rude CCmail messages from guys demanding the password and complaining that they never get a free session. Sometimes calling her rather nasty names for giving a guy other than them 'special attention'. Do you really want to see a really slow, crappy looking camera and a girl in pyjamas looking at her computer angrily while we try to fix the problem?
Guys, just kick back and have some. You never know, if you relax a little, be nice to the girls, and stop constantly worrying that someone else is getting a better deal than you, you might actually be offered a password session!
RE: Password Sessions: The Best Way
I absolutely agree but when you see a host you are not able to see, it creates great interest. You know we want something we can't have or can't have at that moment. Its just human nature
Password protected sessions
I see this from time to time in the Glamour and Little Shy categories.
Webcam session password:
This webcam session is password protected by the Chathost.
Please obtain your password from the Chathost.
It shows the price for open but is closed to all except those with the password. This is the way it was done back in the day before 121. And to me now it appears a way for a host to give certain viewers or her choosing a 121 show at the price of open. And I guess it can include more then one viewer at the same time.
Well out of curiosity I CC Mailed a host having a closed session for her password. I will not reveal the name of the host or the contents of the mail, but it was less than welcoming.
So my conclusion is that password protected sessions are for certain select regular customers that spend big $ in a host's pvt. It may be one at a time or several at a time, but it appears I am not going to one of the lucky ones that gets a password, lol. I have never asked any host that I have spent big $ for a password protected session, but have never seen any of them in a password protected session. Not that they haven't had them, I just never saw it. It seems that is a certain few that always seem to have one, or at least have more than others I've noticed.
So my question to any host that cares to answer, is there any other reason for a password protect session other than those I stated?
Webcam session password:
This webcam session is password protected by the Chathost.
Please obtain your password from the Chathost.
It shows the price for open but is closed to all except those with the password. This is the way it was done back in the day before 121. And to me now it appears a way for a host to give certain viewers or her choosing a 121 show at the price of open. And I guess it can include more then one viewer at the same time.
Well out of curiosity I CC Mailed a host having a closed session for her password. I will not reveal the name of the host or the contents of the mail, but it was less than welcoming.
So my conclusion is that password protected sessions are for certain select regular customers that spend big $ in a host's pvt. It may be one at a time or several at a time, but it appears I am not going to one of the lucky ones that gets a password, lol. I have never asked any host that I have spent big $ for a password protected session, but have never seen any of them in a password protected session. Not that they haven't had them, I just never saw it. It seems that is a certain few that always seem to have one, or at least have more than others I've noticed.
So my question to any host that cares to answer, is there any other reason for a password protect session other than those I stated?
RE: Password protected sessions
yes.i use it when im waiting someone. and im not in mood for show etc. want relax.just want to be online for 1 guy or so. sometimes for poor fan who cant afford 121.but want to stay long. :))
RE: Password protected sessions
Thankyou! a nice girl...
I hate all this, too many $'s and beggar posts, it's not always about the money... sometimes host get bored with beggars and choose to spend time with friends to chill out and relax, without shows ( this i know personally :D ).
If what you say is true, then nice for you...
I hate all this, too many $'s and beggar posts, it's not always about the money... sometimes host get bored with beggars and choose to spend time with friends to chill out and relax, without shows ( this i know personally :D ).
If what you say is true, then nice for you...
RE: Password protected sessions
Yes I have used it if I plan to see someone at a certain time so that he doesn't have to wait yo take me into 121.
RE: Password protected sessions
i've actually never seen a password protected session before
weird
weird
RE: Password protected sessions
Thx a lot for your answer :)
You might think i am stupid, but i have a 2nd question:
When i am in an open session, there is no button to hit to go directly to one2one. I must leave open and go back to hosts profile and then choose one2one.
Oh, BTW: one2one is only possible, when hostroom is empty (no other guest in open)?
You might think i am stupid, but i have a 2nd question:
When i am in an open session, there is no button to hit to go directly to one2one. I must leave open and go back to hosts profile and then choose one2one.
Oh, BTW: one2one is only possible, when hostroom is empty (no other guest in open)?
RE: Password protected sessions
price is often different than their 121 rate, its often the same as open
RE: Password protected sessions
And cam to cam option is only available in 121 or password protected session?
RE: Password protected sessions
No cam2cam is also available in open video session. But only one member can send cam at a time so it is "first come, first served"
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RE: strip hilo category
i think its fun too.. as when it comes to getting naked quick.. that's based on you game skills and luck.. sometimes it takes so long that i lose on purpose :)))
RE: strip hilo category
I would prefer you just to get naked without the strip hilo game. Although I have to admit that I have never played it.
RE: strip hilo category
never played it myself , rather see a sexy strip then a game to take off cloths.
RE: strip hilo category
what really pisses me of is when I have to get naked before she does. (
RE: strip hilo category
I`ve played the game a few times, can be fun thats for sure.
I went into a girls text chat 1st to have a little chat to see how we got on and if the chat flowed, she made a bet with me that if we played the strip hilo, that if i lost i had to take a piece of clothing off as well.
(I have a cam) I agreed thinking i would only lose 2-3 times. Well i ended up naked before she did. But it was a load of fun, we both had a great laugh. It lightened the mood.
I went into a girls text chat 1st to have a little chat to see how we got on and if the chat flowed, she made a bet with me that if we played the strip hilo, that if i lost i had to take a piece of clothing off as well.
(I have a cam) I agreed thinking i would only lose 2-3 times. Well i ended up naked before she did. But it was a load of fun, we both had a great laugh. It lightened the mood.
RE: strip hilo category
i've played it, it's pretty fun. make sure you stay to chat after the game is over though
RE: strip hilo category
its more fun if you actually play the game too. the girls like it when you take your clothes off when you lose... those are the rules of the game anyway. most of the girls i've played the game with will tell me to take my clothes off if i lose lol. which is fine with me, i can understand how some people wouldnt like it though
RE: strip hilo category
No that is not the rules of the game. Go to viewer FAQ and read about Strip hi lo.
"When the Chathost loses a round, she will remove an item of clothing, until there are no clothes left to remove. If the you lose, the round is restarted.
Once you have successfully removed all Chathosts' clothing, you may continue your Video Chat, or play again."
"When the Chathost loses a round, she will remove an item of clothing, until there are no clothes left to remove. If the you lose, the round is restarted.
Once you have successfully removed all Chathosts' clothing, you may continue your Video Chat, or play again."
RE: strip hilo category
For the guest the cam window is even smaller in HiLo option than in 121, and no way to go back into a usual 121 session directly (using an option within the session) from HiLo: this requires leaving and re-entering.
Some other sites do better in terms of cam window size (zoom).
Some other sites do better in terms of cam window size (zoom).
RE: strip hilo category
Strip Hi-Lo always benefits the host as it adds mnitues to a typical video. The only time I found it helpful was with a host who refused to strip in 121 even...but she said ok and did strip in Hi-Lo...odd
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
For me it depends on what the breast looks like, not the size. You can have nice small tits, or nice big tits, or bad ones too. But bigger ones generally look better, if they're nice ones. I dunno, maybe we're just wired to like them. For me it's hard to find a fake pair that look very good, something's always off. I know one model who just got hers done. They look too round, and the skin is too tight around the new size
Please girls, just stay the way you are.
Please girls, just stay the way you are.
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
Large or small is not important, natural nearly always looks best, very big will be a problem later, and can be very uncomfortable with the girl, my ex was 38DD , had to have back treatment, and could not find nice sexy lingerie. Those that try and make false but look too firm and tight dont attract me at all. Understand treatment if they get too saggy, and to make same sizes, but bigger is not always better.
Natural large and curvy always looks great, but small and pert can be oh so sexy... and will stay up there longer :-)
Natural large and curvy always looks great, but small and pert can be oh so sexy... and will stay up there longer :-)
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
A previous girlfriend had breast implants before I met her. Though the scars were well concealed, and they looked nice, they were cold and hard to the touch. Needless to say, this was not as pleasant for me as small naturals would have been. She told me that she could tell when she was developing a fever beacuse her boobs would get warm. I guess larger nipples, (even with small breasts), are more interesting to me...
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
dont know. for me your tits looking same size as always bb:P they are perfect shape and natural .the best so far i seen in my life .maybe guys thought so coz didnt seen u long time? lol
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
think there are plenty of reasons not to risk such surgery, but in your case, dear Anita... sheesh, you don't mess with perfection
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
main thing that's wrong with fake breasts , in my opinion, is that only a small percentage of the procedures is an improvement.
i did some research on this topic a while ago as i was tempted to get a boob job, but after browsing through the picture archives of a lot of surgeons here, i decided it's best to keep my own size, even if it's a bit to small. was amazed how some of the so called "top" doctors can really screw you up that bad (breast far apart from eachother, nipples starring at the ceiling, lumps, baloon-like breasts) .. and since all these pictures were posted on their websites, i believe those were the best results they could get.
not to mention that after an appointment with a surgeon, where i told him that i only want one size bigger, to keep the body proportions, he kept insisting that i should get at least 2 sizes bigger.ughhhh.. at my 43 kg.. i think i would have looked like a porn-circus puppet:)))
so to all the ladies who want to go through this procedure, please do a lot of researches, decide whats best for you and don't let anyone talk you into anything you don't really need.
also, congrats to those ones who got them done and are 100% happy with the result.
i did some research on this topic a while ago as i was tempted to get a boob job, but after browsing through the picture archives of a lot of surgeons here, i decided it's best to keep my own size, even if it's a bit to small. was amazed how some of the so called "top" doctors can really screw you up that bad (breast far apart from eachother, nipples starring at the ceiling, lumps, baloon-like breasts) .. and since all these pictures were posted on their websites, i believe those were the best results they could get.
not to mention that after an appointment with a surgeon, where i told him that i only want one size bigger, to keep the body proportions, he kept insisting that i should get at least 2 sizes bigger.ughhhh.. at my 43 kg.. i think i would have looked like a porn-circus puppet:)))
so to all the ladies who want to go through this procedure, please do a lot of researches, decide whats best for you and don't let anyone talk you into anything you don't really need.
also, congrats to those ones who got them done and are 100% happy with the result.
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
I've seen your tits Anna and they are perfect. And your ass is killer. Do not change.
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
don't know who you are, but thanks. not to worry, i don't plan to change anything :)
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
I prefer very small tits as I am really an ass man and the tits are ususally covered up in my videos. But if they are going to be big make them fake as well is what I say and as big as possible.
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
"I prefer very small tits as I am really an ass man" Amen brother
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
hi guys, just want to tell u i had mine done and i m so happy and my viewers are even happier, business is better, pitty i didnt do it sooner. they look n feel natural and i have the same size like my ass now:)) if the surgeon is good u wont tell they are half fake and they feel very nice! now they use a special cohesive gel which is similar with natural boobs but sexier cause they wont sagg! so stop eatting s**t pls :)
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
no babe, u need some brain implant, i said i have the perfect measurements now, not a fake ass 2 :))) ok im outta here, busy gal :)
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
i don't care one way or another about the size - the problem is the self-esteem issues that would make a girl want to have a deforming surgery in order to be (in her eyes) more attractive. if you want to make yourself better, try reading a book, taking a class or going to the gym. and nothing makes less sense to me than a girl with huge fake tits and crooked teeth...
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
i sure dont know everything, but i've dated a couple of psycho bimbos with fake tits
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
that`s what i was saying, they will never leak..nor sagg geez:)) FDA approved cohesive gel, they use this material for heart too. very soft. whatever. enjoy anything u like, i will 2, there is room for anyone in this world. but just so u know u should understand for some is a good choice, making life beautiful and complete, not something to live for though. i think u guys who over react and like to criticize have more problems, open up guys!:)) u seem to have a communist mind in a democratic package
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
Like the look and feel of natural and that is my prerogative:)
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
Natural are softer and they bounce and cushy when you touch them. The only good that I see in fake is good cleavage because they don't move up or down.
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
whats wrong with FAKE TITS? The same thing that is wrong with FAKE CREDIT CARD in vid!
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
Fake tits is freak ugly!!! I rather go out with women who has natural breast like small or medium but not fake tits!!!
RE: whats wrong with FAKE TITS?
Well done fakes tits are great. Not too large. Not too hard. No scars (go through the nipple)...done by a good surgeon who makes them look yourthful...perky..uplifted...barking at the moon.
Categories
I have no doubt it was CC's intention to have many categories in order to better serve their membership. To give each member more choices. However the free movement of hosts from non adult to instant action and anywhere in between has lead to much confusion among the membership in my opinion. The thread below bears that out. In Glamour and little shy it is possible to see just as much as in instant action and as fast. And I know it is the stated policy of CC not to monitor any rooms. So now we have this huge misunderstanding between some members and some of the more traditional hosts in Glamour and Little Shy.
And I don't know if there is an answer for it. I make sure I spend as little time as possible in free chat. But I do try and find out what it is the host likes to do in paid videochat before I commit to it. And sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. So I'm thinking if using CC Mail and see if that is the better way of communicating. And since it is free to all and both parties have time to make sure they spell correctly and have a better chance to get their message across. After all language issues can cause misunderstanding as well.
My 2 centavos.
And I don't know if there is an answer for it. I make sure I spend as little time as possible in free chat. But I do try and find out what it is the host likes to do in paid videochat before I commit to it. And sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. So I'm thinking if using CC Mail and see if that is the better way of communicating. And since it is free to all and both parties have time to make sure they spell correctly and have a better chance to get their message across. After all language issues can cause misunderstanding as well.
My 2 centavos.
RE: Categories
a lot of the hosts on this site have MILF in their username
i guess they don't find it degrading
i guess they don't find it degrading
RE: Categories
Doesn't change the degrading aspect of it, money makes people do a lot of things that are degrading.
RE: Categories
I know young pretty girls on a social networking site that use the term. They like it and are not making any $ from it. Everyone is free to make their own personal choice. You sound like someone that wants to force your values on everyone else.
RE: Categories
it's the same as saying "woman i'd like to fuck," except that woman is replaced with mom... what's the big deal? if the woman is a mom then the statement could be true. its actually more like a compliment
RE: Categories
I don't see how any sentence with fuck in it can be a compliment?? Ask your mother or sisters how they feel about that statement...I doubt they will say thank you for the compliment :))
Do all colombian girls have fake tits?
Colombian girls are so hot yet I haven't seen one who didn't have what looked like fake tits. Real turn off for me. Are there any "naturally" endowed Colombian girls?
RE: Do all colombian girls have fake tits?
yes.its very cheap there and good quality. so even poor girl can afford it.they start it from 18years there.new tits in colombia cost much cheaper then anywhere.
RE: Do all colombian girls have fake tits?
In colombia they say "without tits there's no paradise".
So, first thing a girl buys.. is a set of HUGE plastic fake boobs
So, first thing a girl buys.. is a set of HUGE plastic fake boobs
RE: Do all colombian girls have fake tits?
I love 'em. I'm so glad Colombia has embraced "enhanced" breasts. (I dislike the term "fake" because it has negative connotations - I much prefer "enhanced," as in "improved"... but that's just me.)
RE: Do all colombian girls have fake tits?
Yes. All Columbian girls are given fake boobs at birth. On each birthday they go the "Salon de aire teta" to get some air pumped into them. By age 18 they all have those amazing bowling ball sized yaboos.
Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
Ok first let me say this does not happen in all cases, but it does happen more than just a few times. When my favs are not on line I sometimes shop around looking at new girls. I go to all of the Girl categories. But when I ask in free chat if a girl does an erotic nude show in 121, I get the feeling I have offended them by merely asking. And yes I am polite at all times. I do not bark orders etc. In facts CC advises viewers to ask about show in free chat. That is why there is a free chat.
I know there is no shortage of rude members on site and they deserve no respect at all. But there are at least a few of us viewers that are polite. There seems to be a reluctance with many hosts to answer a question with a simple yes or no. Instead in many cases questions are answered by their questions, inane questions along the lines of 20 questions.
It is also very curious how many hosts in Little Shy that advertise Strip Hi Lo, say no when asked if they strip in pvt. And again not all or even most answer that way, but it happens more often than it should in my opinion.
My reason for this post is because I have met some of the best hosts I have seen anywhere on the net in Glamour/Little Shy and it is unfortunate that there are so many other hosts that behave as negatively as they do. Or in the words of so many girls on site, its a pity.
I know there is no shortage of rude members on site and they deserve no respect at all. But there are at least a few of us viewers that are polite. There seems to be a reluctance with many hosts to answer a question with a simple yes or no. Instead in many cases questions are answered by their questions, inane questions along the lines of 20 questions.
It is also very curious how many hosts in Little Shy that advertise Strip Hi Lo, say no when asked if they strip in pvt. And again not all or even most answer that way, but it happens more often than it should in my opinion.
My reason for this post is because I have met some of the best hosts I have seen anywhere on the net in Glamour/Little Shy and it is unfortunate that there are so many other hosts that behave as negatively as they do. Or in the words of so many girls on site, its a pity.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
your attitude proves his point, congratulations. He was polite and you were...less polite
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
No I wasn't asking for quick show, all I ask is if a host will do a show at all. There are many who simply do not strip for anyone at any time for any reason. And most hosts do answer with a simple yes or no.
You are a perfect example of what I was talking about. If you are planning on taking a trip do you ask what you will see when you get there. Or do you simply pay your money and hope you see what you hope to see?
You are a perfect example of what I was talking about. If you are planning on taking a trip do you ask what you will see when you get there. Or do you simply pay your money and hope you see what you hope to see?
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
i agree with you, who want a show can go to instant action and pay, with less than 5/min i will never offer a show, but many members want with 1/min to see the host naked in 5min, they can only dream of this, i don't think the women are so stupid to sell themself for nothing.
Who want show must be ready to pay for this
Who want show must be ready to pay for this
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
Why should i go to IA only? I get hot shows in Glam & LilShy also, some are around 50-80 cent/min.
You say:
"with less than 5/min i will never offer a show"
How should he know (threadstarter)? Are we mindreaders?
Your answer and the one from "glamour-simply and clear" has nothing to do with the initial posting, which said that a simple yes or no would clear the situation.
If Glam or shy hosts don`t write in their profile: I don`t strip, someone can ask in free about that.
You say:
"with less than 5/min i will never offer a show"
How should he know (threadstarter)? Are we mindreaders?
Your answer and the one from "glamour-simply and clear" has nothing to do with the initial posting, which said that a simple yes or no would clear the situation.
If Glam or shy hosts don`t write in their profile: I don`t strip, someone can ask in free about that.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
this is what you can afford, only ceap things, for sure also in your real life you look only for what is cheap, continue in this way and be happy
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
I said SOME are cheap, i also go to more expensive nice hosts, but hopefully never meet you.
Stressed with your job? Go and find a better one.
Stressed with your job? Go and find a better one.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
How rude your comments are!! Put screen name with those thoughts so it doesn't reflect on the rest of the hosts that aren't that way!
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
The problem is that there are plenty of girls in Glamour and Little Shy who do shows from the first minute at prices in the range of $1 to $2. Therefore there will always be plenty of members who go to free chat in these categories and ask for a show (me included).
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
ask more, your cheap hosts will be very happy
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
I will continue to ask until the day comes when I get enough refusals to make it not worth my while.
To wow - A little bit if they are at or near the $1 mark and work in a studio. But I don't set the prices and I don't feel sorry enough to ask them to raise their price.
To glamhost - I am happy for you to care only about my money. In fact I assume that that is what all the hosts I visit care about. That is not a criticism just a fact. Why would a beautiful 20 something girl feel anything else for a dirty old pervert. All I ask is that while I am in her room that beautiful 20 something girl pretends she cares about the dirty old pervert :D
To oh - I have no idea if they feel used but they seem perfectly happy to request I visit them when I see them in comm chat or by sending me a cc mail asking me to visit.
To Wildzone - Thanks for telling them to read the posts before they decide to reply.
To wow - A little bit if they are at or near the $1 mark and work in a studio. But I don't set the prices and I don't feel sorry enough to ask them to raise their price.
To glamhost - I am happy for you to care only about my money. In fact I assume that that is what all the hosts I visit care about. That is not a criticism just a fact. Why would a beautiful 20 something girl feel anything else for a dirty old pervert. All I ask is that while I am in her room that beautiful 20 something girl pretends she cares about the dirty old pervert :D
To oh - I have no idea if they feel used but they seem perfectly happy to request I visit them when I see them in comm chat or by sending me a cc mail asking me to visit.
To Wildzone - Thanks for telling them to read the posts before they decide to reply.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
but don't you feel bad paying these girls nothing for getting all nude?
hows a girl supposed to live on nothing?
hows a girl supposed to live on nothing?
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
I give a lot for hosts (cheap and expensive), but i really feel bad for those in studios, knowing they only get a quarter or less of my money.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
you three would look soooooooooooooo much smarter if had actually read what ImNotYourFriend wrote, but alas you didn't.
you should try reading sometime, its good exercise for those who have brains
you should try reading sometime, its good exercise for those who have brains
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
You sound like you are one of the hosts that complains that some of her fellow hosts ruin glamour by getting naked. You are 100% wrong!
Glamour hosts, unless a restricted session, are allowed to do the exact same things as Instant Action hosts, and some of them do perform hard core shows right away. They simply choose Glamour because they think it is a popular category and will help them get more viewers.
Your attitude is completely inappropriate. Neither the host nor the member is doing anything wrong by asking for a show, even a hard core show in Glamour. If you don't like the fact that Glamour hosts often strip and do hard core shows, then complain to CC and tell them you want the category rules to change. But your response to "Confounded viewer" indicates that you are a host that absolutely nobody on this site would ever want to go see even if your price was $0.0000000000000000000001!!! Unlike the original poster, you were beyond rude. Maybe dungeon would work better for you!
Glamour hosts, unless a restricted session, are allowed to do the exact same things as Instant Action hosts, and some of them do perform hard core shows right away. They simply choose Glamour because they think it is a popular category and will help them get more viewers.
Your attitude is completely inappropriate. Neither the host nor the member is doing anything wrong by asking for a show, even a hard core show in Glamour. If you don't like the fact that Glamour hosts often strip and do hard core shows, then complain to CC and tell them you want the category rules to change. But your response to "Confounded viewer" indicates that you are a host that absolutely nobody on this site would ever want to go see even if your price was $0.0000000000000000000001!!! Unlike the original poster, you were beyond rude. Maybe dungeon would work better for you!
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
Speak for yourself when you make the comment that all girls get nude in little shy and glamor after awhile. That isn't true at all so it might be in your case but don't speak for all hosts in those categories. Next time use your screen name so that viewers can know you do.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
From my many chats with hosts there are two main reasons why some hosts in the softcore have got fed up with being asked about shows in free chat. Many members have abused free chat by asking about shows there and, after getting a positive reply, expecting the show to start immediately when they enter video. Some (not all) hosts inthese categories really do need to spend time chatting before they feel comfortable stripping. And they may not strip for all. This brings me to to second reason which is that some members, having previously failed to get the host to strip, use a different name to check up on her.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
lol yes some girls are really so naive that they believe guys masturbating while asking questions in text chat... comon girl, there are hundreds of sites for free porn with millions of gorgeous naked girls... you really think you are so superior that guys would masturbate only for seeing you typing in text chat?
And yes not all viewers who ask questions about show not join to video after this, its like selling a used car, everybody who look for this car and ask questions about it, is not going to buy it.
If you are not willing for 5 minute polite conversation about what you offer in your show, then you are not in right job.
And yes not all viewers who ask questions about show not join to video after this, its like selling a used car, everybody who look for this car and ask questions about it, is not going to buy it.
If you are not willing for 5 minute polite conversation about what you offer in your show, then you are not in right job.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
5 mins is ok and i always do. But you are mistaken thinking guys don't masturbate when they get answers, as men all different and need different stimulation. For you porno is ok, for some others too boring and they need interaction...even without seeing a woman.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
I think that you need to be a bit more discrete how you ask. I try to avoid asking directly if a glamour/little shy host will get naked because it usually gets a negative response such as "I'm not Instant Action."
What I do is, depending on the situation, let the host know that I am interested in a show, but indirectly. For example, if a host has nude pics, you can say how you like her pics. She, will most likely say, "Ty". And then you can say something like, "It would be nice if I could see you like (insert particular pic here)." It is a little easier when she is topless or naked in the profile pic, but she will get the message.
You need to be creative depending upon the situation. Most soft core hosts will strip for you, but none of them want to strip for the so-called "two minute man". You need to make sure you are doing nothing that makes them think you are such a member. You need to be nice, politie, respectful, et cetera AND you need to be discrete and subtle in terms of how you ask. It can also help if you indicate that you like a nice, sensual striptease because that lets the host know you don't expect her to rip off all her clothes and bust out her toy in 2 seconds.
I sometimes ask about this in open session, depending upon the price, and other times, I ask in free chat. Either way, after a discussion like that, the host really has nowhere to go. If she starts talking about what your job is and other things, it probably is time to bolt. She is trying to change the subject so it is probably time for you to change hosts.
Another thing I do is almost always give my cam and ask if they want to "see more" if I am in open. Once they've seen more, lol, there really isn't any way for them to start talking about the weather, lol. Usually, I get the standard "mmmmmmmmmmmmm", and then I get a show. If no show seems to be happening, I will ask something like "Can you help him?" Sometimes, I get the "How about we get some privacy" type of line or am told directly to go to 121, but once again, there isn't much more to do other than for a show or for me to go at this point.
Again, the key is to do nothing that makes them think it will be a "Wham, bam, thank you mam" type of session. And unfortunately, simply asking directly if they strip in free chat usually gets a negative response. You just need to be a bit more indirect in terms of your approach.
What I do is, depending on the situation, let the host know that I am interested in a show, but indirectly. For example, if a host has nude pics, you can say how you like her pics. She, will most likely say, "Ty". And then you can say something like, "It would be nice if I could see you like (insert particular pic here)." It is a little easier when she is topless or naked in the profile pic, but she will get the message.
You need to be creative depending upon the situation. Most soft core hosts will strip for you, but none of them want to strip for the so-called "two minute man". You need to make sure you are doing nothing that makes them think you are such a member. You need to be nice, politie, respectful, et cetera AND you need to be discrete and subtle in terms of how you ask. It can also help if you indicate that you like a nice, sensual striptease because that lets the host know you don't expect her to rip off all her clothes and bust out her toy in 2 seconds.
I sometimes ask about this in open session, depending upon the price, and other times, I ask in free chat. Either way, after a discussion like that, the host really has nowhere to go. If she starts talking about what your job is and other things, it probably is time to bolt. She is trying to change the subject so it is probably time for you to change hosts.
Another thing I do is almost always give my cam and ask if they want to "see more" if I am in open. Once they've seen more, lol, there really isn't any way for them to start talking about the weather, lol. Usually, I get the standard "mmmmmmmmmmmmm", and then I get a show. If no show seems to be happening, I will ask something like "Can you help him?" Sometimes, I get the "How about we get some privacy" type of line or am told directly to go to 121, but once again, there isn't much more to do other than for a show or for me to go at this point.
Again, the key is to do nothing that makes them think it will be a "Wham, bam, thank you mam" type of session. And unfortunately, simply asking directly if they strip in free chat usually gets a negative response. You just need to be a bit more indirect in terms of your approach.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
You make a valid point about direct questions in free chat. And asking questions in open can work, depending on price. But if you are in open and the conversation just strays all over the place, you will almost never get to the point of seeing her naked. At some point you have to ask her to strip. By rule even in IA you have to ask for a show. If you keep talking there is no host on this site (except for IA) that will strip on her own no matter how long you stay in video. Trust me, I've been down that road a few times, hour plus videos talking.
And if you are in free, the host if business is slow, may make concessions she normally would not make if business is good. You are in a better bargaining position from free chat.
And if you are in free, the host if business is slow, may make concessions she normally would not make if business is good. You are in a better bargaining position from free chat.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
IN the Glamour and little shy categories the host is not obliged to do nude show. The viewer can only ask politely if she does nude show. It is up to the host to decide.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
the reason why so many aren't straight forward in their replies when asked about a show is quite easy to figure out - when you say no to a member he'll go look elsewhere so most prefer to be vague and leave a 'maybe' hanging there that will keep bringing the member back to her room for more. and since quite a lot of members are rather challenged about undressing a host from those categories and are willing to pay good money to get what they want the cat and mouse game will go on forever
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
Misleading would be my term. But you are right, because once the member sees them naked, there is no reason to keep coming back and its on to another host who he has not seen naked yet.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
Exactly. $100 for the host means $200 to the viewer.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
200$? For price 2$ per min thats mean a viewer should stay as minimum 1.30 hr in hosts pvt...for me that too long, I would get too tired for example. The perfect session for me should last about 40-50 mins that is enough to know a bit each other, mans likes and secret fantasies and for some fun of course.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
50 min @ $2 is $100 and only $50 to host. Then you would be tired of talking and would want him to come back next day for another 50 min chat. You sound like a host I have had a pvt or more with. I know how that game works.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
I think girls dont say about it stright ...but they just mean it, So that is why some hosts come with vague answers about do they strip or not when members ask about it.
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
from my experience, none of the models in either of those categories have given me a bad attitude... maybe it's just because i treat them nicely.. i dont know
RE: Why the bad attitude Glamour/little shy hosts?
Because they don't want to work here...they don't want to strip...and they want you to give them money because they think they are beautiful, charming and intelligent and they deserve it. Simple.
"It's Our Money, We're Paying"
You know I read a lot of posts by members that "we are the ones paying" like that means you can do, say, expect whatever you want and the model must comply willingly, unquestioningly, submissively.
This is not true. Even in my every day business, there are expectations on both sides of business. If a customer is rude, disruptive, disrespectful of the feelings of my employees who are serving him, I do not have to accept the customer's behavior. And if he is too bad, his money means nothing to me. I throw him out of my store and tell him never to come back.
Where do we get the idea that our money gives us members license to be asses? that we can abuse verbally or disrespect the model.
The models are people too with feelings and values. They are providing a service, but they are not slaves, except in fantasy role-playing. I see so much self-centered disrespect being voiced in these forums. If you were my customer at my business and you behaved the way you behave here, you would be out the door and your money would be no good at my establishment. i don't care how much money you want to throw around. My employees deserve to be respected.
And so do the models here. No wonder some of the models are complaining, or rejecting some of the members the way they do. They are just maintaining their own self-respect.
This is not true. Even in my every day business, there are expectations on both sides of business. If a customer is rude, disruptive, disrespectful of the feelings of my employees who are serving him, I do not have to accept the customer's behavior. And if he is too bad, his money means nothing to me. I throw him out of my store and tell him never to come back.
Where do we get the idea that our money gives us members license to be asses? that we can abuse verbally or disrespect the model.
The models are people too with feelings and values. They are providing a service, but they are not slaves, except in fantasy role-playing. I see so much self-centered disrespect being voiced in these forums. If you were my customer at my business and you behaved the way you behave here, you would be out the door and your money would be no good at my establishment. i don't care how much money you want to throw around. My employees deserve to be respected.
And so do the models here. No wonder some of the models are complaining, or rejecting some of the members the way they do. They are just maintaining their own self-respect.
RE: "It's Our Money, We're Paying"
Same words just opposite perspective.
SundaySmile: Each chathost rules her chatroom the way she wants it to be. She set a rule in
KefirCartMaiden: Each member rules HIS OWN money the way he wants it to be. He sets rules in video how he wants it, if you do not want his money you can close video
SundaySmile: Each chathost rules her chatroom the way she wants it to be. She set a rule in
KefirCartMaiden: Each member rules HIS OWN money the way he wants it to be. He sets rules in video how he wants it, if you do not want his money you can close video
RE: "It's Our Money, We're Paying"
Well I am glad you do, because then that means there are at least other members who share my thoughts and concerns, and that not everyone is a self-centered inconsiderate jerk. Personally, I haven't seen other members posting what I posted, and that's why I posted it. But thank you for sharing this, because now I know that I'm not alone in my feelings and appreciation for the models here.
RE: "It's Our Money, We're Paying"
What's to cry about? I'm rejoicing that not every one is as you are.
RE: "It's Our Money, We're Paying"
I suggest all members read the guidelines cc has written for all categories. And if they have any further questions, email customer service. They can also read the host's profile and ask her in free chat what she is or is not willing to do in paid videochat.
Its really that simple. And everyone knows or should know "You get more bees with honey"
Its really that simple. And everyone knows or should know "You get more bees with honey"
RE: "It's Our Money, We're Paying"
I agree with what you say but there are some very arrogant hosts here who decide to be over sensitive or just demanding of the members. It amazes me how rude they can be without even working on the site very long even so it's not always members who can be very rude.
RE: "It's Our Money, We're Paying"
The hosts make a choice when they work here...they compromise their ethics and morals to make money. Doing that exposes them to men who can be mean, thoughtless, cruel and insulting. If I chose to be a policeman then I would have to accept the fact I could be hurt physically and some people would hate me and wish me harm. It is part of the job description.
Hosts are of course human beings and deserve some respect and decency...but if they don't get it...don't complain...find another line of work.
Hosts are of course human beings and deserve some respect and decency...but if they don't get it...don't complain...find another line of work.
Moonfantasy
just wondering if anyone knows where she went? she hasnt been on since december.. she was one of my favs!
RE: Moonfantasy
look for a new one, if didn't tell you where she is, for sure don't care of you
CC I miss the way it used to be
When the arrows were right on the pictures, instead of below it. Was so much easier to move to the next or previous picture, just click on the right or left side of the pick. Please consider putting it back to its original way.
Thank you.
Thank you.
RE: CC I miss the way it used to be
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! please don't!!!!!!!!!!!!! the arrows were annoying and covered part of the pic. they looked stupid too and were a distraction.
What's so difficult about clicking under the pic by the way?
What's so difficult about clicking under the pic by the way?
RE: CC I miss the way it used to be
the arrows only covered when the cursor hovered over the picture. its not difficult below. just more convenient and easier above
RE: CC I miss the way it used to be
I wanted the arrows OFF the Picture ( I look at the picture to see the girl ;-) ) but I wanted the arrows to the left and right of the picture (not on it).
ComChat
okie dokie-lets change the forum topic from opening or close cams and focus on something that is on a lot of us chat room members and not to the ones that don't go to chat room (I have already read previous post on why you don't) -Question?-why do you go to comchat room.
RE: ComChat
Where else can I make you go deaf by sending you a link to Tarzan when you forget to turn your volume down lol.
Oh and to meet new people from all over the world and chat with them, that is almost as fun as the first reason ;)
Oh and to meet new people from all over the world and chat with them, that is almost as fun as the first reason ;)
what is the record for.....
1. consecutive threads about the same topic?
must be about cam2cam, lol
2. most frequently posted topic
must be about hosts meeting members and does it happen, lol
must be about cam2cam, lol
2. most frequently posted topic
must be about hosts meeting members and does it happen, lol
RE: guys,do you like to open your cam or not?post YES or NO,plz
Yes, why not, but there are times I don't. Its according of what the host category is and what she might ask me to do. I wont get naked just for anyone.
RE: guys,do you like to open your cam or not?post YES or NO,plz
I do not. I wish we could do an actual poll in this forum
RE: guys,do you like to open your cam or not?post YES or NO,plz
Why U wanna know if visitors of the site open their cam or not? Will U decide on "the public opinion" before U open ur cam?
RE: guys,do you like to open your cam or not?post YES or NO,plz
i have cam but i always say i dont have one.
An interesting question for everyone
As we all know the girls in the softcore categories are not required to offer a nude show in their room. And many that do nude shows require 121. And there are even a few that require viewer cam to view a nude show.
So the question is then; is it fair to the viewer to require him to show himself on his cam in order to see a nude show by a host in the softcore categories of Glamour and Little Shy?
So the question is then; is it fair to the viewer to require him to show himself on his cam in order to see a nude show by a host in the softcore categories of Glamour and Little Shy?
RE: An interesting question for everyone
If the chathost's policy is made known to the viewer before he spends money in her video, then yes, of course, it's perfectly fair.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
I do not think it is fair at all if otherwise she would normally show.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
i would never vid a host that had to see me to do a show , unless she wanted to pay me 2$ a minute.:)))
RE: An interesting question for everyone
yeah, of course cause u are so damn handsom and u deserve to be paid.. right..lol
RE: An interesting question for everyone
it will cost you 2$ a minutes to find out , if your cute , maybe i will lower my price to 1$ , but just for you .
RE: An interesting question for everyone
I would get annoyed if a host indicated that she didn't want to see me while stripping on cam, lol. That's one of the main reasons I first got a cam... so the host could see me while we're playing.
This whole series of threads is strange. I rather just watch a free porn video instead of paying a host to strip without cam to cam. Half the fun is that she can see me so I almost always give my cam.
Maybe I am just an exhibitioinist, lol, but cam to cam seems to make the whole experience better because it makes the personal connection between the host and member better in my opinion.
This whole series of threads is strange. I rather just watch a free porn video instead of paying a host to strip without cam to cam. Half the fun is that she can see me so I almost always give my cam.
Maybe I am just an exhibitioinist, lol, but cam to cam seems to make the whole experience better because it makes the personal connection between the host and member better in my opinion.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
I tend to agree with you. Definitely makes things more fun. Of course, it's somewhat host-dependent too.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
As long as the host comes in my chat room and pays me for a show she can see me in cam2cam doing a show for her too..... I do not insist on 121 because CC rules state that is the viewers option.
P.S. "No1 Voyuer" we reserve the right to determine if it is "an interesting" question.
P.S. "No1 Voyuer" we reserve the right to determine if it is "an interesting" question.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
<<you are posted it in order to collect some answers which will say that shes obligated to act like THIS and THAT then copypaste/printscreen it and harass her with it?>>
Weren't you criticising others for being sceptical just a few postings below? What's the phrase about glasshouses and stones!
Weren't you criticising others for being sceptical just a few postings below? What's the phrase about glasshouses and stones!
RE: An interesting question for everyone
Oh Sunday >> Each member rules his own money the way he wants it to be. He sets rules in video how he wants it, if you do not want his money you can close video or you can go to work in a shop not here, or wait for your man to give you sumthing.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
Sunday did you notice I posted your comment and replaced positions of host and member!?
RE: An interesting question for everyone
That comment is so over abused here by hosts....the fact is without paying members the hosts have no income or can sit in front of their screens and then cry in hosts forum....
RE: An interesting question for everyone
It is not a matter of fairness. A host in those categories is free to make her own conditions. Members who don't like them can simply leave.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
I think some hosts like you let things go to your head toooo much. If he wants to open his cam it should not be because you are asked first....funny no screen name with those ridiculous comments.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
The conclusion from all these posts is (surprise surprise) people are different.
Some members like to show cam, and some don't
Some members like to be asked, some don't
Some hosts want to see a members cam some don't etc etc
In other words no host can please every member and no member will be happy with every host.
Some members like to show cam, and some don't
Some members like to be asked, some don't
Some hosts want to see a members cam some don't etc etc
In other words no host can please every member and no member will be happy with every host.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
your comment dear SICK about no screen name being posted is first and foremost applicable to ..... YOURSELF.
You don't post with your screen name so your comment is dripping in hypocrisy.
You don't post with your screen name so your comment is dripping in hypocrisy.
RE: An interesting question for everyone
Miss your role here is not to understand, just do what your told, and don't get fat.
Happy to be back :)
Sorry I was gone for such a long time .. I was travelling and sorting things out back home .. well just want to say hello to everyone xx
RE: Why is it modern?
That's why I hate people lol
Kidding...
I know it's outside virtual world, just that I believe it's harder (unless if it is cultural) to be sarcastic, ironic; people are more enclined to be nice, at least to fake it.
Have to admit, I am very sarcastic, because it's the best way to defend :)
Kidding...
I know it's outside virtual world, just that I believe it's harder (unless if it is cultural) to be sarcastic, ironic; people are more enclined to be nice, at least to fake it.
Have to admit, I am very sarcastic, because it's the best way to defend :)
RE: Why is it modern?
If I were you I'd never come to the UK. Seriously, sarcasm and irony are a way of life over here ;)
RE: Why is it modern?
Hahaha,!!
hoorayyyy !!
your lovely humour will be appreciated here gorgeous.!!
hoorayyyy !!
your lovely humour will be appreciated here gorgeous.!!
RE: Why is it modern?
talk about british humour and you did that perfect, one simple, sharp, abrupt, narcissistic comment....
hilarious ;D
hilarious ;D
RE: Why is it modern?
Hahah, yes she has it so well, could be some english in her ?
haha.... pls no obvious answers....
haha.... pls no obvious answers....
RE: Why is it modern?
I'm not sceptical or ironic... but I am sarcastic. I think this is a big part of the British sense of humour... and I'm like that even when I can't be anonymous.
Don't think that sarcasm is too dangerous or damaging to be honest, especially if you make it clear that you are being sarcastic. Say it with a smile. :D
Don't think that sarcasm is too dangerous or damaging to be honest, especially if you make it clear that you are being sarcastic. Say it with a smile. :D
RE: Why is it modern?
Not sure where you are from or how old you are but dreams do not always equal reality. I think that to be skeptical especially concerning sites like this is being realistic!!
I have also noticed especially in hosts forum that many girls post there wanting postive words even though it might be a lie! That is not reality! I think to be honest might be conceived with different intentions but in reality it is the truth. I can not be sympathetic to every girl that posts on this site when I know that much of the details are missing. Is that rude or realistic to ask for further clarification or give all scenarios of what the situation could be?
Perhaps you are young and naive and over sensitive?? How ever you see it I think that rather than accusing all others of being rude, sarcastic, skeptical, etc might make one see you as the one that is a dreamer :) Also many of the reactions that you stated also brings smiles or laughter and what is wrong with that??
I have also noticed especially in hosts forum that many girls post there wanting postive words even though it might be a lie! That is not reality! I think to be honest might be conceived with different intentions but in reality it is the truth. I can not be sympathetic to every girl that posts on this site when I know that much of the details are missing. Is that rude or realistic to ask for further clarification or give all scenarios of what the situation could be?
Perhaps you are young and naive and over sensitive?? How ever you see it I think that rather than accusing all others of being rude, sarcastic, skeptical, etc might make one see you as the one that is a dreamer :) Also many of the reactions that you stated also brings smiles or laughter and what is wrong with that??
RE: Why is it modern?
maybe it's just a bit of a natural, sanity-preserving reaction to a world full of war, zealots, riots, and economic uncertainty?
A response to to Annita post below
The most used word I see in hosts' profiles is rude. Well there are many members who think it is rude for a host to ask for member cam. Its fine if she puts in her profile that she loves to do c2c, but let the member decide if he wants to use his cam or not. This is NOT Facebook or some other free networking site, It is a pay per view adult cam site. You are PAID for whatever it is you do in videochat.
I have no doubt that Annita is a Glamour or Little shy host, because in the grown up world of instant action its showtime as soon as the member enters video. The smart hosts of IA understand how this business works. They also know that anonymity drives the internet.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee Annita
I have no doubt that Annita is a Glamour or Little shy host, because in the grown up world of instant action its showtime as soon as the member enters video. The smart hosts of IA understand how this business works. They also know that anonymity drives the internet.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee Annita
RE: A response to to Annita post below
Hello *member since 2000*!
There are guys who like to turn on their webcams, and there are guys who don't like it. But from this to saying it's rude for a host to ask the guy to turn on his webcam.. it's a long distance. Maybe some got bored of being asked (like you for example, who have been on adult cam sites for more than 10 years), and of course it's someone's choice what he wants to do, but for sure it's not RUDE to ask to see a guy.
In the post below I was asking what reasons they have to refuse, and I got some honest answers (between others), and I don't think I've killed anyone with my question.
If you think it's rude, that's your problem. Live in your grown up IA world, and leave alone the Glamour/Little Shy girls that are not pleasing your heart, or better said, another part of your body.
Have a nice day, and chill, we are not in a war here.
Glamour/Little Shy girl Annita ;)
There are guys who like to turn on their webcams, and there are guys who don't like it. But from this to saying it's rude for a host to ask the guy to turn on his webcam.. it's a long distance. Maybe some got bored of being asked (like you for example, who have been on adult cam sites for more than 10 years), and of course it's someone's choice what he wants to do, but for sure it's not RUDE to ask to see a guy.
In the post below I was asking what reasons they have to refuse, and I got some honest answers (between others), and I don't think I've killed anyone with my question.
If you think it's rude, that's your problem. Live in your grown up IA world, and leave alone the Glamour/Little Shy girls that are not pleasing your heart, or better said, another part of your body.
Have a nice day, and chill, we are not in a war here.
Glamour/Little Shy girl Annita ;)
RE: A response to to Annita post below
And you are an expert on what members think? I have seen in the posts often that many members do not want to be asked for cam and especially then have the host question them with the intent of changing their mind.
Speak for yourself and not the members....I hear them loud and clear Missy!
Speak for yourself and not the members....I hear them loud and clear Missy!
RE: A response to to Annita post below
My point was that don't keep bringing it up...they have spoken loud and clear. Be respectfull of their choices and don't try to change their thoughts. I am sure all have different reasons .....Enjoy cam with the ones that choose and don't expect all to want to.
RE: and what about hosts who dont like cam2cam :P
That sounds a bit arrogant when they are the paying person. Don't look if you don't want to but it should be their choice rather than having to ask permission. Some girls here totally amaze me with their demands!!
RE: A response to to Annita post below
i think to ask cam from member its simply polite.this way host show her interest to viewer. but ofcouse not need to force members to doing it. just ask if he have a cam. no then no.but most of my guys reply- YES SURE 1 MOMENT SWEETY.:)
RE: A response to to Annita post below
I almost always choose c2c. There are a few hosts that I won't give my cam to, or at least show my face, lol, for various reasons, but usually I prefer c2c. And I don't mind a host asking for my cam.
But I definitely think it is the member's right not to give his cam, and if the host is in hard core, she needs to just deal with it. If she is in glamour or little shy and wants to say no nudity if no c2c, then that is her right. But nobody should be rude about it.
And for the person who said that everyone has a cam, that isn't true. Why would you assume that everyone uses a laptop and that all laptops have built in cams? Most new laptops do seem to have them, but older ones don't, and desktops don't come with built in cams (unless they are one of the ones with monitors that have built in hard drives and a cam) so your attitude was completely inappropriate.
But I definitely think it is the member's right not to give his cam, and if the host is in hard core, she needs to just deal with it. If she is in glamour or little shy and wants to say no nudity if no c2c, then that is her right. But nobody should be rude about it.
And for the person who said that everyone has a cam, that isn't true. Why would you assume that everyone uses a laptop and that all laptops have built in cams? Most new laptops do seem to have them, but older ones don't, and desktops don't come with built in cams (unless they are one of the ones with monitors that have built in hard drives and a cam) so your attitude was completely inappropriate.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
"But I definitely think it is the member's right not to give his cam, and if the host is in hard core, she needs to just deal with it. If she is in glamour or little shy and wants to say no nudity if no c2c, then that is her right. But nobody should be rude about it."
There are several who do that now.
There are several who do that now.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
If a not so shy or instant action host won't strip since you won't give your cam, just report her to CC. She must get naked, and this is not dependent upon whether you give your cam. If she doesn't like this, she can switch to glamour or little shy.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
Yes that is true. I was referring to Glamour/Little shy. I never get this bullshit in IA.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
I'll try to post this again, since I hit the wrong button on the PC and i don't know if it sent or didn't send, and I wasn't even finished anyway.
soooo....if it appears below, please forgive ;)
If a member thinks its rude for a host to ask to see his cam, then IMO the member has issues.
What is rude about simply asking to see the member's cam?
Nothing!
It's simply makes sense that a host would want to see the person she is talking with, and/or performing to.
Even though I hate cam2cam (for reasons stated below) I don't mind being asked.
It's part of the total experience here, the available opportunity, for both member and host to be seen.
If some can't cam for lack of a cam, or because they are too uncomfortable with camming -- either for privacy reasons, or because they are too shy, or because, like me, they are too damned embarrassed by his or her appearance, then so be it.
but to ask? give me a break, that is not rude.
What IS rude, IMO, is for a host to belabor the point if a member says no, or to make an issue of it. I had one host refuse to get naked if I did not use my cam. THAT was rude, as far as I'm concerned. People have reasons for not using cams, and those reasons should be respected.
but for the host simply to ask.... no, that is not rudeness. but it certainly is pettiness if one takes offense at such a simple question
soooo....if it appears below, please forgive ;)
If a member thinks its rude for a host to ask to see his cam, then IMO the member has issues.
What is rude about simply asking to see the member's cam?
Nothing!
It's simply makes sense that a host would want to see the person she is talking with, and/or performing to.
Even though I hate cam2cam (for reasons stated below) I don't mind being asked.
It's part of the total experience here, the available opportunity, for both member and host to be seen.
If some can't cam for lack of a cam, or because they are too uncomfortable with camming -- either for privacy reasons, or because they are too shy, or because, like me, they are too damned embarrassed by his or her appearance, then so be it.
but to ask? give me a break, that is not rude.
What IS rude, IMO, is for a host to belabor the point if a member says no, or to make an issue of it. I had one host refuse to get naked if I did not use my cam. THAT was rude, as far as I'm concerned. People have reasons for not using cams, and those reasons should be respected.
but for the host simply to ask.... no, that is not rudeness. but it certainly is pettiness if one takes offense at such a simple question
RE: A response to to Annita post below
You wrote: "I have no doubt that Annita is a Glamour or Little shy host, because in the grown up world of instant action its showtime as soon as the member enters video. The smart hosts of IA understand how this business works. They also know that anonymity drives the internet. Time to wake up and smell the coffee Annita"
And you have the audacity to speak about rudeness?
BTW, do you think your moniker "Member since 2000" give you some sense of credibility? I've been a member here (off and on) and at other cam sites since 2001, actually my first camsite experience was 1996 or something like that. I certainly don't think that gives me any more credibility than the member whose been here only since 2010 or even 2011.
And you have the audacity to speak about rudeness?
BTW, do you think your moniker "Member since 2000" give you some sense of credibility? I've been a member here (off and on) and at other cam sites since 2001, actually my first camsite experience was 1996 or something like that. I certainly don't think that gives me any more credibility than the member whose been here only since 2010 or even 2011.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
I gave my opinion, you gave yours. We disagree. Case closed.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
Well, I think for one so quick to point out others' rudeness, you did a pretty good job of it yourself. not a matter of opinion... a matter of manners
RE: A response to to Annita post below
This is a cam site which requires hosts to use cam to be able to benefit from the site. For her to refuse nudity in the proper category with out the member having cam is wrong!! If she is so afraid of someone that she knows seeing her then she shouldn't be a host here because that is the risk that is included with being here.
From the members perspective if I chose not to use cam and visit the site often it would get annoying if I was constantly asked especially if I was turned down for that reason. That in my opinion would be very rude on the part of the host. This is what I am hearing from many of the posts.
From the members perspective if I chose not to use cam and visit the site often it would get annoying if I was constantly asked especially if I was turned down for that reason. That in my opinion would be very rude on the part of the host. This is what I am hearing from many of the posts.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
well it wasn't on this site, fortunately, and the host was in SHY category there. but still, I agree, not only was it rude, but also wrong as far as the Chathost Agreement went.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
SOmetimes I am happy to send my webcam and sometimes I am not in the mood to do so. I think anyone who considers it rude for a host to simply ask a member if he can send his cam is being over sensitive. If the host becomes pushy and demanding about it that may be a different issue.
RE: A response to to Annita post below
"Well there are many members who think it is rude for a host to ask for member cam."
Luckily most of them will be able to tell their mummy all about the rude girls as she tucks them in at night.
Luckily most of them will be able to tell their mummy all about the rude girls as she tucks them in at night.
Time for your fav....
Question to members. How many of you have gone to work late, or taken off a morning or afternoon or a full day...vacation, sick or working from home...so you could chat with and see your favorite CC sweetie online?
RE: Time for your fav....
my favourite member did it for me many times..:P but i think only obsessed guy would do it
RE: Time for your fav....
Never. On a work day I never even think of coming on here for a video although I have read the forums whilst drinking my coffee.
RE: Time for your fav....
lol word, same here...
one time when i stayed home sick i came to visit my fav as well
dont know if that counts since i was actually sick
one time when i stayed home sick i came to visit my fav as well
dont know if that counts since i was actually sick
RE: Teacher of Romanian
Ya know... in all honesty, of the Romanian girls who host, most are more than just fluent in English, in fact.. of the ones i've met, more than 50% speak 3-4 languages... sometimes 5, and as close as can be word perfect!
Both spoken, read and written in all of their languages.
You know, these Romanian girls are fucking smart, and well known for it outside of the 'cam' world.
Just find a host here you like and they can teach you all that you want, About their language, and teach it to you properly, believe me, some of the girls are really educated in teaching it (not just at school level, but university level) ;)
I do the same with two. one to teach and one to practise with. (just to make sure that "hi, how are you?" wasn't taught to me as "hi, fuck you!" lol
The girls are all helpful, when they want to be ;) if you just wanna learn and you're not begging then they'll be happy to help you out.
Both spoken, read and written in all of their languages.
You know, these Romanian girls are fucking smart, and well known for it outside of the 'cam' world.
Just find a host here you like and they can teach you all that you want, About their language, and teach it to you properly, believe me, some of the girls are really educated in teaching it (not just at school level, but university level) ;)
I do the same with two. one to teach and one to practise with. (just to make sure that "hi, how are you?" wasn't taught to me as "hi, fuck you!" lol
The girls are all helpful, when they want to be ;) if you just wanna learn and you're not begging then they'll be happy to help you out.
RE: Teacher of Romanian
Knowing the language and being fluent in it, and being able to teach it to a non-native speaker are two very different things. Though it may have worked for you, I don't recommend it for most people. Better to get a qualified language tutor.
RE: Teacher of Romanian
Going into a paid vid to learn a foreign language is a VERY expensive way to learn! Maybe on a messenger but, even there, I've found learning some russian, romanian, german, portuguese, spanish or tagalog to say intermediate level B1 Spoken Interraction, (some of the languages available from CC hosts), is mainly a frustrating waste of time. Just being a native speaker doesn't mean someone can teach their language effectively.
However, if it's just a few phrases you want, then CC CommChat can do that for you for nothing; most Romanian hosts are very obliging there and their English too is often excellent. Start with te iubesc! )
However, if it's just a few phrases you want, then CC CommChat can do that for you for nothing; most Romanian hosts are very obliging there and their English too is often excellent. Start with te iubesc! )
RE: Teacher of Romanian
Exactly the point I was making above. However, going to a qualified language tutor can be a very expensive proposition also. But would sure be a whole lot more effective and worth the money. But probably wouldn't be as much fun. Last time I asked my language tutor to stand up and strip for me, she called the police.
RE: Getting Hot
yeah your right-she is a little out of my league, not sure if I can make her happy--I go back to Angelina Jolie
RE: Getting Hot
Lol I know this girl. She dated my brother in high school :) Very big headed nowadays I hear, got famous through chalga and marrying one of the bg boxer Kubrat soon.
RE: Getting Hot
I just saw some song (everybody loooves champagne) on youtube with miss tits, some romanian gay and shaggy. You must be a masochist to listen to this LOL
RE: Getting Hot
Read the wikipedia article LOL "This is the hottest womenever" .... not exactly "professionalism" in that statement. Certainly not the caliber that should represent an online dictionary, even if it is "user contributed" :) Even if it is true, though I'm sure there will be some who do not find her all that attractive to their tastes
RE: Getting Hot
I don't find her attractive at all, definitely not 'The hottest woman ever" ;)
The bleach blonde, plastic, blow up doll type don't do anything for me. Give me a natural 'girl next door' any day of the week. I like real woman, not manufactured ones.
The bleach blonde, plastic, blow up doll type don't do anything for me. Give me a natural 'girl next door' any day of the week. I like real woman, not manufactured ones.
RE: Getting Hot
From her pics, she looks like someone that definitely uses toys, lol. But I'd rather be with a lot of chathosts here before I'd pick her.
RE: Getting Hot
Life in plastic is fantastic!, just like a credit card, can not leave home without it
RE: Getting Hot
He wasn't talking about generosity, he was talking about business. Take away your members' credit cards and you won't be doing webcam service, at least not on a pay site